mofome
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Re: We Finally SEE why PALIN is being hidden from live interviews...
seems odd. i would think everyone in this thread will vote.
seems odd. i would think everyone in this thread will vote.
We Finally SEE why PALIN is being hidden from live interviews...
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I have previously stated on a number of occasions that I supports no one in this election and that my vote will simply be against Obama.
You said earlier that we should not talk about politics, no?
I have previously stated on a number of occasions that I supports no one in this election and that my vote will simply be against Obama.
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Based upon the "passion" at which they are willing to hurl insults here?
Simply basing it off the fact that most people that are registered to vote, don't. And that, IMHO, is one of the saddest facts there is.
People, you do understand that you don't have a RIGHT to vote, correct? Nowhere in the US Constitution does it say that you have a RIGHT to vote. Voting is a privilege that should never be taken lightly and should never be used on the "lesser of 2 evils".
Based upon the "passion" at which they are willing to hurl insults here?
Simply basing it off the fact that most people that are registered to vote, don't. And that, IMHO, is one of the saddest facts there is.
People, you do understand that you don't have a RIGHT to vote, correct? Nowhere in the US Constitution does it say that you have a RIGHT to vote. Voting is a privilege that should never be taken lightly and should never be used on the "lesser of 2 evils".
Rxx
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RD- i dont disagree with you on a lot of things of principle, but i think you are wrong here. This election will have a huge turnout and the people who are vociferous in this thread will very likely be casting votes in November.
I can assure you, that since i became eligible in 1977, that the only times i didnt vote were in off years and only a judgeship was on the ballot. Voting isnt just a privilege, its a civic responsibility.
RD- i dont disagree with you on a lot of things of principle, but i think you are wrong here. This election will have a huge turnout and the people who are vociferous in this thread will very likely be casting votes in November.
I can assure you, that since i became eligible in 1977, that the only times i didnt vote were in off years and only a judgeship was on the ballot. Voting isnt just a privilege, its a civic responsibility.
mofome
Banned
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I just thought you liked animals. Thats all.
I just thought you liked animals. Thats all.
mr merlin
EOG Master
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Are you completely out of your mind Shrink - we did invade the right country(afganistan), we also invaded one extra! It's not that big a deal.
Are you completely out of your mind Shrink - we did invade the right country(afganistan), we also invaded one extra! It's not that big a deal.
devilmann
EOG Addicted
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As a citizen of Arizona who has voted for McCain for Senator (twice) I can say I will not be voting for him for President. I would consider myself an independent ( I voted for Clinton twice, voted for the current Republican Mayor, I have voted for Libratarians and Independents in local and state elections as well) basically party lines do not mean much to me. I vote on the basis of who I think is most qualified, has the best ideas, has the most inteligence, and the best chance to accomplish the goals they set out.
There is no way I can in good faith vote for McCain for president. As far as Palin is concerned, she is seriously under-qualified and under-educated to hold the number two (and God forbid number one) position in the US government. I don't care if she is a "reformer" "pit-bull" or a milf hockey mom. I don't care if my wife, grandmother, or the secretary in my office relate to her folksy style of speech or fashion sense. In 4 - 8 years who knows, Palin may have gained enough experience and knowledge, but as of now I would not want her (or McCain for that matter) in the whitehouse.
As a citizen of Arizona who has voted for McCain for Senator (twice) I can say I will not be voting for him for President. I would consider myself an independent ( I voted for Clinton twice, voted for the current Republican Mayor, I have voted for Libratarians and Independents in local and state elections as well) basically party lines do not mean much to me. I vote on the basis of who I think is most qualified, has the best ideas, has the most inteligence, and the best chance to accomplish the goals they set out.
There is no way I can in good faith vote for McCain for president. As far as Palin is concerned, she is seriously under-qualified and under-educated to hold the number two (and God forbid number one) position in the US government. I don't care if she is a "reformer" "pit-bull" or a milf hockey mom. I don't care if my wife, grandmother, or the secretary in my office relate to her folksy style of speech or fashion sense. In 4 - 8 years who knows, Palin may have gained enough experience and knowledge, but as of now I would not want her (or McCain for that matter) in the whitehouse.
JC
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WHile I like a lot of what you have to say, what makes you think McCain is any different? In his first major decision to distinguish himself, he went with someone who appeased the party base, not his own personal first choice.
WHile I like a lot of what you have to say, what makes you think McCain is any different? In his first major decision to distinguish himself, he went with someone who appeased the party base, not his own personal first choice.
ZZ CREAM
EOG Master
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P.S. Hello JC. How are you doing? I hope you and yours are doing well. You should be President, but you see where logic got you.
You could say that about the majority of Republicans. They cannot admit their emperor is not wearing clothes, so they too must go along with the charade/lie of the day. I guarantee you that 90 per cent of registered Republicans will not admit that Iraq is a mistake, let alone a crime.
P.S. Hello JC. How are you doing? I hope you and yours are doing well. You should be President, but you see where logic got you.
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Sportsgirl aren't you getting tired of using that joke? Is it possible the guy was tired or in his defense, he might have been referring to the 57 primaries. The 50 states and the 7 commonwealths and territories that were included in the nominating process? Sportsgirl, shouldn't you be more worried when McCain said that the Iranians were arming and protecting the Sunni militias? Not once, not twice, but three times until LIeberman had to whisper in his ear that the Iranians are Shiite's and it would be insane for them to be arming the Sunni's? McCain's big appeal is supposed to be his foreign policy and he makes a horrible mistake like this? I think making a gaffe about 57 states is very small compared to saying something like McCain said about the war. What McCain said should have ended this election the day he said it. I doubt saying something that ridiculous three times could be called a mistake.and she probably knows how many states there are in the USA (see my signature).
mr merlin
EOG Master
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911 was planned by Saddam Hussein in a palace in bagdad, period!... Either that or in some hut in afganistan, the point is we can't take chances.
JC
EOG Veteran
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A big +1 to the above.
To all of you folks who talk about taxes, I generally share your sentiments. Spending and taxes have been out of control. The Republicans have spent us into oblivion, even if you exclude the war. They have made the Federal government bigger, not smaller, more in your private business, not less.
As for tax rates, it all started with Bush I. Bush I raised the top rate from 28% to 31%, I think. Then came Clinton. He jacked the top rate to 39.6%. Then W lowered the top rate to 35%. If you'll notice, the top rate is still higher than it was before Clinton's increase. Why is that ok? 35% is greater than the day Clinton took office. So if there was no Clinton, W raised taxes from 31% to 35%. Why is that ok? Both Bush I and W are tax raisers compared to Reagan.
Next, many of you will talk about capital gains tax, dividend tax, estate tax,etc. While I dont believe in taxing people when they pass on money they've already paid taxes on, all of the other variations are nothing more than government engineering. Money should equal money should equal money, no matter what form it is earned in, be it labor, gains, or dividends.
Yes, the double taxation of dividends was wrong, but instead of dropping it on the investor side, it should have been dropped on the business side, allowing businesses to expense dividends, not dropping shareholder taxes on dividends.
A big +1 to the above.
To all of you folks who talk about taxes, I generally share your sentiments. Spending and taxes have been out of control. The Republicans have spent us into oblivion, even if you exclude the war. They have made the Federal government bigger, not smaller, more in your private business, not less.
As for tax rates, it all started with Bush I. Bush I raised the top rate from 28% to 31%, I think. Then came Clinton. He jacked the top rate to 39.6%. Then W lowered the top rate to 35%. If you'll notice, the top rate is still higher than it was before Clinton's increase. Why is that ok? 35% is greater than the day Clinton took office. So if there was no Clinton, W raised taxes from 31% to 35%. Why is that ok? Both Bush I and W are tax raisers compared to Reagan.
Next, many of you will talk about capital gains tax, dividend tax, estate tax,etc. While I dont believe in taxing people when they pass on money they've already paid taxes on, all of the other variations are nothing more than government engineering. Money should equal money should equal money, no matter what form it is earned in, be it labor, gains, or dividends.
Yes, the double taxation of dividends was wrong, but instead of dropping it on the investor side, it should have been dropped on the business side, allowing businesses to expense dividends, not dropping shareholder taxes on dividends.
Munchkin Man
EOG Dedicated
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Greetings:
The Munchkin Man would like to present you with the following op-ed piece on Sarah Palin's interview with Charles Gibson:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy.../09/12/AR2008091202457.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
Enjoy.
Best Wishes,
Munchkin Man
Greetings:
The Munchkin Man would like to present you with the following op-ed piece on Sarah Palin's interview with Charles Gibson:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy.../09/12/AR2008091202457.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
Enjoy.
Best Wishes,
Munchkin Man
JC
EOG Veteran
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Hi, Im doing fine. Thank you. Does a felony disqualify me?
Hi, Im doing fine. Thank you. Does a felony disqualify me?
Rookie Project
EOG Member
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No, she is not that stupid. You apparently are for believing that is what she meant. Good job!
Just a note for you. Saddam was thrown from power and executed. Al Queda had been the main focus of the Iraq war for about 4 years now. Al Quada planned and carried out 9/11.
Now you can go back to your ranting and raving.
No, she is not that stupid. You apparently are for believing that is what she meant. Good job!
Just a note for you. Saddam was thrown from power and executed. Al Queda had been the main focus of the Iraq war for about 4 years now. Al Quada planned and carried out 9/11.
Now you can go back to your ranting and raving.
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Same ole garbage from you. You make Sportsgirl 58 states comment seem very fresh.
Same ole garbage from you. You make Sportsgirl 58 states comment seem very fresh.
CHOPTALK
EOG Veteran
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I dont know JC.
I could be just as pissed off at McCain 4 years from now as I am Bush right now.
But there is 0 doubt that Obama will implement his socialist ways without breaking any campaign promise.
He already said he is going to do it.
The rich are evil according to him.
I also think he is going to be a heavy spender.
In order for him to give out all the handouts that he is promising, he will have to spend even more money then his soon to be historic tax raises will generate.
We could have higher taxes and higher spending.
That would be a nightmare like we have never seen before.
I dont know JC.
I could be just as pissed off at McCain 4 years from now as I am Bush right now.
But there is 0 doubt that Obama will implement his socialist ways without breaking any campaign promise.
He already said he is going to do it.
The rich are evil according to him.
I also think he is going to be a heavy spender.
In order for him to give out all the handouts that he is promising, he will have to spend even more money then his soon to be historic tax raises will generate.
We could have higher taxes and higher spending.
That would be a nightmare like we have never seen before.
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Great post. Looks like another two time Bush voter being able to see right thru Obama but had no problem with Bush's last eight years. Priceless.
Rookie Project
EOG Member
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Obama is qualified to be president because he stared down the corrupt Chicago political machine and got them to help buy him a house. That takes balls.
Obama is qualified to be president because he stared down the corrupt Chicago political machine and got them to help buy him a house. That takes balls.
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The most important issue to me is national security. How can it not be? Do you know how much conflict is in our future? A whole helluva lot. Obama cannot be taken seriously, because all of his close friends are raging lunatics. Disqualified in my book. The end.
I don't support or take any politician seriously. They are all full of shit and clueless for the most part. It's all smoke and mirrors and rhetoric. The Democrats are not "for the working man" and the Republicans are not "God's party." In my short voting lifetime, I've never voted for someone I liked. I have always voted for the lesser of two evils.
The most important issue to me is national security. How can it not be? Do you know how much conflict is in our future? A whole helluva lot. Obama cannot be taken seriously, because all of his close friends are raging lunatics. Disqualified in my book. The end.
Re: We Finally SEE why PALIN is being hidden from live interviews...
Huh?
This is a new one, so please indulge me. Who are all these 'close friends' that are 'raging lunatics?'
Huh?
This is a new one, so please indulge me. Who are all these 'close friends' that are 'raging lunatics?'
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That is not all. I do like animals and you undoubtably know that. Carry on. 12io4j2w90
I just thought you liked animals. Thats all.
That is not all. I do like animals and you undoubtably know that. Carry on. 12io4j2w90
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Nope. I was probably somewhere around 3 years old when I didn't know how many state there were - tired or not.
Nope. I was probably somewhere around 3 years old when I didn't know how many state there were - tired or not.
Re: We Finally SEE why PALIN is being hidden from live interviews...
The point is that you embarrass yourself time and time again when you post.
Re: We Finally SEE why PALIN is being hidden from live interviews...
How did you dodge my first post and grab this one? R U running for office soon?
How did you dodge my first post and grab this one? R U running for office soon?
alkoholiks
EOG Veteran
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SHRINK, I'm with you here. Obama 08.
SHRINK, I'm with you here. Obama 08.
mr merlin
EOG Master
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I have a little truth for you fellas - your boy Obama is going to lose and there's nothing you can do about it. How do you like them apples?
It's not easy thinking this crap up, the point is that some of you take yourselves way too seriously.
I have a little truth for you fellas - your boy Obama is going to lose and there's nothing you can do about it. How do you like them apples?
4625
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Though the irrelevancy of such a verbal faux pas is a welcome relief to one who has cringed through the buffoon's thirteen years of verbal and intellectual idiocy, here is a link to snope's analysis of Obama's statements concerning 57 states:
http://snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp
Though the irrelevancy of such a verbal faux pas is a welcome relief to one who has cringed through the buffoon's thirteen years of verbal and intellectual idiocy, here is a link to snope's analysis of Obama's statements concerning 57 states:
http://snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp
sl55
EOG Veteran
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One thing that is painfully obvious in this thread,and that is the school system must have have changed to the karl marx school of thought over 30 years ago.I never remember having it drivin in my head to hate and dispise this country,but that must be philosophy 101 now.Have fun burying the greatest country on earth,what a shame.2938u4ji23
One thing that is painfully obvious in this thread,and that is the school system must have have changed to the karl marx school of thought over 30 years ago.I never remember having it drivin in my head to hate and dispise this country,but that must be philosophy 101 now.Have fun burying the greatest country on earth,what a shame.2938u4ji23
4625
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Hubris precedes Nemesis just as darkness precedes daylight. . . .
Hubris precedes Nemesis just as darkness precedes daylight. . . .
ZZ CREAM
EOG Master
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That's good, if only I could figure out what the hell it means.:+textinb3:+textinb3:+textinb3
4625
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Hubris and Nemesis are ancient Greek concepts. "Hubris" has been variously characterized as: "overweening pride; self-glorification; arrogance; insolence; overconfidence in one's ability and one's ability to do whatever one wants, to the point of disdaining the cardinal virtues of life; ignoring other people's feelings; overstepping boundaries; and impiously defying all who stand in the way." Hubris is often portrayed as the tragic fault of leaders in Greek mythology.
"Nemesis" is the Greek God of divine vengeance and retribution, and she is often portrayed in Greek literature as descending from Mt. Olympus to destroy the prideful offender, cutting man down to size and restoring equilibrium.
Those old-timey Greeks were pretty smart fellers. . . . .
Hubris and Nemesis are ancient Greek concepts. "Hubris" has been variously characterized as: "overweening pride; self-glorification; arrogance; insolence; overconfidence in one's ability and one's ability to do whatever one wants, to the point of disdaining the cardinal virtues of life; ignoring other people's feelings; overstepping boundaries; and impiously defying all who stand in the way." Hubris is often portrayed as the tragic fault of leaders in Greek mythology.
"Nemesis" is the Greek God of divine vengeance and retribution, and she is often portrayed in Greek literature as descending from Mt. Olympus to destroy the prideful offender, cutting man down to size and restoring equilibrium.
Those old-timey Greeks were pretty smart fellers. . . . .