VSIN
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FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
Re: VSIN
They will broadcast for the entire 1st round of the NFL draft Thursday.
They will broadcast for the entire 1st round of the NFL draft Thursday.
Scatana Fas
EOG Addicted
Re: VSIN
https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sp...wizards-bulls-celtics-nfl-draft-part-1-79074/
Teddy can't afford any Grecian Formula?
https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sp...wizards-bulls-celtics-nfl-draft-part-1-79074/
Teddy can't afford any Grecian Formula?
TheGuesser
EOG Dedicated
Re: VSIN
I'm enjoying VSIN the times I get to listen. I think when they expand their programming day, and especially when the football season comes, they will be a must listen for Football bettors. I think JK would be a natural fit, if he has any interest.
Would also love Groovin and/or CB hosting a weekly show called Toutbusters, busting the charlatans week after week.
I'm enjoying VSIN the times I get to listen. I think when they expand their programming day, and especially when the football season comes, they will be a must listen for Football bettors. I think JK would be a natural fit, if he has any interest.
Would also love Groovin and/or CB hosting a weekly show called Toutbusters, busting the charlatans week after week.
Viejo Dinosaur
EOG Master
Re: VSIN
John The Barber is a complete fraud....I met him a few years ago at South Point and he told me he was a winning player at sports and had not had a losing month in a couple years...said his specialty was hockey and that he bet hundreds on games...I asked the sports book directors about this guy and they told me he was a fifty dollar player at the most and that he was a losing player..they must be hard up for guests to let this guy on the radio...
John The Barber is a complete fraud....I met him a few years ago at South Point and he told me he was a winning player at sports and had not had a losing month in a couple years...said his specialty was hockey and that he bet hundreds on games...I asked the sports book directors about this guy and they told me he was a fifty dollar player at the most and that he was a losing player..they must be hard up for guests to let this guy on the radio...
Re: VSIN
The problem is that there's no market for that, because these shows all require touts to provide content. Gill Alexander is a long term documented loser, and Dr Bob pretty clearly no longer wins at this, at least in the NBA (anyone who's followed his NBA picks from 2000-present is an overall loser), yet Gill is a regular host on VSIN and Dr Bob was just on with him the other day. Gill is clueless about optimal betting but is a slick talker, so to a novice it sounds like he knows what he's talking about, even though most of what he says is non-predictive or rectally extracted. Long term winning is not a requirement to be on one of these shows as long as it sounds good.
In some old thread I was recently reading from a while back, ComptrBob had a good quote, when someone asked why he didn't do more radio appearances, he said something to the effect of "a show can't exactly have a bunch of guests on, and then have another guest on who tells the audience that all of the other guests lose."
A few people on Twitter tried to get me on some radio show where the host is supposedly "edgy" and likes controversy, and thought I would be a good fit to rant about touts, so I said sure. The host told them "Oh I can't have that guy on, he rips on good and honest handicappers like Teddy Covers." ComptrBob has tracked Teddy for about 8 years and has him down -128.85 units as of May 1st, so my "ripping on Teddy" is based on documented evidence, but these radio hosts don't care about facts.
The problem is that there's no market for that, because these shows all require touts to provide content. Gill Alexander is a long term documented loser, and Dr Bob pretty clearly no longer wins at this, at least in the NBA (anyone who's followed his NBA picks from 2000-present is an overall loser), yet Gill is a regular host on VSIN and Dr Bob was just on with him the other day. Gill is clueless about optimal betting but is a slick talker, so to a novice it sounds like he knows what he's talking about, even though most of what he says is non-predictive or rectally extracted. Long term winning is not a requirement to be on one of these shows as long as it sounds good.
In some old thread I was recently reading from a while back, ComptrBob had a good quote, when someone asked why he didn't do more radio appearances, he said something to the effect of "a show can't exactly have a bunch of guests on, and then have another guest on who tells the audience that all of the other guests lose."
A few people on Twitter tried to get me on some radio show where the host is supposedly "edgy" and likes controversy, and thought I would be a good fit to rant about touts, so I said sure. The host told them "Oh I can't have that guy on, he rips on good and honest handicappers like Teddy Covers." ComptrBob has tracked Teddy for about 8 years and has him down -128.85 units as of May 1st, so my "ripping on Teddy" is based on documented evidence, but these radio hosts don't care about facts.
TheGuesser
EOG Dedicated
Re: VSIN
I hear ya, but I Hope(probably fruitlessly) that as VSIN expands for Football, there will be a market for such a Consumer Protection type show, even if they have touts on other programs.
Viejo Dinosaur
EOG Master
Re: VSIN
John the Barber on the VSIN Show laid Pitt Penguins -1.5 goals in game 7....:LMAO
John the Barber on the VSIN Show laid Pitt Penguins -1.5 goals in game 7....:LMAO
Viejo Dinosaur
EOG Master
Re: VSIN
Maybe has something to do with Bert throwing you out of South Point for scalping rodeo tickets...:LMAO
Maybe has something to do with Bert throwing you out of South Point for scalping rodeo tickets...:LMAO
Scatana Fas
EOG Addicted
Re: VSIN
A lot of the current programming is really hard to listen to and stay tuned in. The Pauly/Mitch show just rambles with no real direction. They should have stayed where they were as their style is more 'general sports talk'.
I wanted to like Gill Alexander but two hours of dry, dull, sports analytics is not entertaining, and that is what they need to focus on. Some of his regular guests are knowledgeable, but I'm not listening to hear that there are 6 cents of 'value' with Sentazala over Greinke at home with the wind blowing in.
A lot of the current programming is really hard to listen to and stay tuned in. The Pauly/Mitch show just rambles with no real direction. They should have stayed where they were as their style is more 'general sports talk'.
I wanted to like Gill Alexander but two hours of dry, dull, sports analytics is not entertaining, and that is what they need to focus on. Some of his regular guests are knowledgeable, but I'm not listening to hear that there are 6 cents of 'value' with Sentazala over Greinke at home with the wind blowing in.
TheGuesser
EOG Dedicated
Re: VSIN
VSIN Programming day expansion starting August 28th: VSIN programming alert: 7 a.m. Eastern will be the new start time for the Vegas Stats & Information Network, beginning on Monday, Aug. 28. You will be able to "Follow the Money" with Mitch Moss and Pauly Howard live from the VSiN studio in the middle of Las Vegas' only 24-7 sports book here at the South Point Hotel. Follow the Money will expand to three hours from its current two and run from 7-10 a.m. Eastern weekdays on SiriusXM 204 and VSiN.com. We'll have more details on the rest of the programming schedule later this week.
VSIN Programming day expansion starting August 28th: VSIN programming alert: 7 a.m. Eastern will be the new start time for the Vegas Stats & Information Network, beginning on Monday, Aug. 28. You will be able to "Follow the Money" with Mitch Moss and Pauly Howard live from the VSiN studio in the middle of Las Vegas' only 24-7 sports book here at the South Point Hotel. Follow the Money will expand to three hours from its current two and run from 7-10 a.m. Eastern weekdays on SiriusXM 204 and VSiN.com. We'll have more details on the rest of the programming schedule later this week.
railbird
EOG Master
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
Re: VSIN
They should have enough to discuss with football season fast approaching.
They should have enough to discuss with football season fast approaching.
Re: VSIN
They need to make the archived shows available in podcast form; specifically eliminating the myriad of commercial breaks. I would prefer a one day old VSIN podcast with no commercials over the current day show with commercial breaks every 10 minutes.
As for content, more handicapping and less tout talk.
They need to make the archived shows available in podcast form; specifically eliminating the myriad of commercial breaks. I would prefer a one day old VSIN podcast with no commercials over the current day show with commercial breaks every 10 minutes.
As for content, more handicapping and less tout talk.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
Bushay
NHL Expert
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
Re: VSIN
Havent had a chance to really listen for a month now but I agree with your assessment of Von Tobel and Youman.
Havent had a chance to really listen for a month now but I agree with your assessment of Von Tobel and Youman.
Scatana Fas
EOG Addicted
texaswizzard
EOG Dedicated
Re: VSIN
VSIN isn't much of a factor nationally since their first week. Don't see it lasting more than 18-24 months unless they want to keep losing tons of money. The hosts and guests IMO aren't very compelling.
VSIN isn't much of a factor nationally since their first week. Don't see it lasting more than 18-24 months unless they want to keep losing tons of money. The hosts and guests IMO aren't very compelling.
TheGuesser
EOG Dedicated
Re: VSIN
Their play is PASPA revocation. I like the network, but the appeal is limited now. It'll grow exponentially if the case goes the right way.
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VSIN's problem: even if they have a good guest on, it can only stay on for 5 minutes before they have to take a 3 minute commercial break. If you hear the show on Sirius, most of that commercial time isn't from outside sponsors; its mostly just Sirius pumping up other Sirius channels.
VSIN's problem: even if they have a good guest on, it can only stay on for 5 minutes before they have to take a 3 minute commercial break. If you hear the show on Sirius, most of that commercial time isn't from outside sponsors; its mostly just Sirius pumping up other Sirius channels.
raininthrees
Point Spread Nomad
Re: VSIN
you gotta walk before you can run.
patience young skywalker, as the legalization steps
are moments away and then all hell is gonna break loose.
#theforceisstrong
you gotta walk before you can run.
patience young skywalker, as the legalization steps
are moments away and then all hell is gonna break loose.
#theforceisstrong
TheGuesser
EOG Dedicated
Re: VSIN
VSIN now has an app. I wouldn't be surprised if they also have VSIN endorsed Sportsbook software in their future when/if this explodes nationally.
VSIN now has an app. I wouldn't be surprised if they also have VSIN endorsed Sportsbook software in their future when/if this explodes nationally.
railbird
EOG Master
Re: VSIN
I like some of it, I like Kenny white, jimmy Vaccaro, and brent is like vin scully to me, I can listen to him read the phone book
I like some of it, I like Kenny white, jimmy Vaccaro, and brent is like vin scully to me, I can listen to him read the phone book