Temple Basketball

[blueline]

The UAB-Temple game was flagged for unusual betting activity Thursday, an American Athletic Conference official confirmed to Sports Illustrated.

As you can see from the chart below, the line at DraftKings Sportsbook moved from UAB -2.5 to -3 at 11:50 a.m ET and was at -8 by 2:40 p.m. before closing at -7.5 by the 7 p.m. tipoff. UAB beat host Temple 100-72


SI’s Pat Forde reported that U.S. Integrity, which monitors betting activity for sports teams and sportsbooks, sent an alert to operators about the game

That was the second straight loss for Temple and the second straight game in which the Owls did not come close to covering the spread. They were favored by 5.5 points Saturday at home against the Tulsa Golden Hurricane and lost by five. Tulsa opened the game by jumping out to a 16–2 lead and stayed ahead the rest of the way.

A source in the gambling space says U.S. Integrity has been monitoring Temple games for a while. Temple did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

 

[skinny]

You never see a line move this much late in the season unless there is multiple injuries or suspensions.
No injuries or suspensions for temple, definitely something going on.

 

[kane]

I saw the big move yesterday and didn't understand it, even if a service like RAS released UAB it still wouldn't explain a move that big this deep into the season, definitely something going on

 

[Sportsrmylife]

This is the time Matthew holt of US Intergrity pounds their chest and justifies their existence to college for finding this activity

Anyone with an odds screen could do his job

Hey a line moved 4 points
Call the ncaa and the school that something could be happening

Now pay me thousands for this expert advise

So dumb

Bookmakers do this better than anyone so why doesn't the ncaa simply use their info

Books have better info if a dude comes in who normally bets 100/gm and suddenly wants 2k on some small college gm

Matthew holt learned how to swindle money from the best swindler in the game, rj bell

 

[Patrick McIrish]

I'm not a CBB pro but I put the line at -10 before it ever came out.

I think it was just a bad opener.

UAB 11-6 in the AAC, Temple was 4-13 in conference. Is -8 an absurd number or a correction? I'd argue the latter.

 

[Patrick McIrish]

LMAO at another "watchdog" service trying to be relevant.......

I think we've seen here in Forumville how well that works out in the long run.

How long before shit outfits use this information to void bets and/or take freerolls at players?

Maybe not legal jurisdictions but in off-shore it's almost a guarantee to happen.

US Integrity, LOL. Anyone that lined this game -2.5 is a moron to begin with........

We move on.

 

[kane]

Hey a line moved 4 points

It actually moved 6 points, and again, you don't typically see that type of movement this deep into the season, I'm not saying kids from Temple were doing something fishy, but at the very least it's worth looking into

 

[IWishIWasAPro]

They said they've been monitoring them for a long time. They should have gotten involved from the jump. Stories like this kill us. Maybe legalizing it everywhere wasn't a good idea

Temple doesn't cover shit, obviously hindsight is 20/20 but shit.

 

[Heim]

This is the time Matthew holt of US Intergrity pounds their chest and justifies their existence to college for finding this activity

Anyone with an odds screen could do his job

Hey a line moved 4 points
Call the ncaa and the school that something could be happening

Now pay me thousands for this expert advise

So dumb

Bookmakers do this better than anyone so why doesn't the ncaa simply use their info

Books have better info if a dude comes in who normally bets 100/gm and suddenly wants 2k on some small college gm

Matthew holt learned how to swindle money from the best swindler in the game, rj bell

The company is a joke especially with Holt that was indirectly involved with the shenanigans at 'The M' with Cantor and Colbert (arrested).

I got a lot of heat on twitter back then for saying the word integrity and Holt don't belong in the same sentence.

 

[kane]

FWIW, KenPom had the game UAB -1

 

[Patrick McIrish]

The AAC is one of many NCAA conferences that employ U.S. Integrity to monitor gambling activity surrounding its member schools and to serve as an educational arm for teaching athletes and staff about how wagering is tracked.

Say what? Athletes and staff need to be informed on how wagering is tracked? LOL.

There's a reason closers are more accurate over the long haul than openers.

A new industry and everyone trying to be relevant and make a buck.

Even here with a more seasoned audience than most places the theme seems to be "thank GOD for US Integrity!!"

They hung a weak line and it got pounded like it usually does.

 

[Sportsrmylife]

It actually moved 6 points, and again, you don't typically see that type of movement this deep into the season, I'm not saying kids from Temple were doing something fishy, but at the very least it's worth looking into

I was only using 4 as a line in the sand to say something is up

I think it got to 8 and closed 7.5

 

[Sportsrmylife]

The company is a joke especially with Holt that was indirectly involved with the shenanigans at 'The M' with Cantor and Colbert (arrested).

I got a lot of heat on twitter back then for saying the word integrity and Holt don't belong in the same sentence.

Anybody that partners with Randall bell already has questionable integrity

I'd like to hear what some of the wagertalk cappers think of RJ

 

[Patrick McIrish]

FWIW, KenPom had the game UAB -1

Yep, in this copy cat industry that probably influenced why such a weak number was hung......

You didn't look at the game, Kane? I know it's tough after the game is played but what would you make the line?

 

[Patrick McIrish]

The good news is with "US Integrity" around they are going to teach athletes and staff how to investigate suspicious betting patterns on games!

YAHOO!

I bet even Shrink would get red in the face over this one, LOL.

 

[ComptrBob]

FWIW, KenPom had the game UAB -1

Yep, in this copy cat industry that probably influenced why such a weak number was hung......

You didn't look at the game, Kane? I know it's tough after the game is played but what would you make the line?

Today KenPom has UAB -9 on a neutral, -6 or so @Temple in a rematch.

30 games into the season. a Kenpom team change after the one game (even lopsided) is very rarely more than 1/2 pt. Probably Kenpom was more like UAB -4.

 

[kane]

but what would you make the line?

I'm not a modeler, I don't have power ratings for each team, that isn't how I cap games, so I can't answer your question

 

[Heim]

Aside from yesterday's red flag I thought this was interesting as mentioned by the OP:

"The UAB-Temple matchup was flagged Thursday, although a source says Owls games have been monitored for a while"

 

[Patrick McIrish]

I'm not a modeler, I don't have power ratings for each team, that isn't how I cap games, so I can't answer your question....

Surrender noted.

 

[kane]

What exactly am I surrendering? I told you I don't have power ratings for each team, I don't use a model, that isn't how I cap college hoops, so I can't tell you what line I would have made on the game since that isn't how I cap games, but if it makes you feel better, then okay I surrender

 

[boston massacre]

PHILADELPHIA >> Temple University will review reports that show at least one game involving its men’s basketball team has been flagged by gambling watchdog company U.S. Integrity for unusual betting activity.
The betting line for Thursday night’s game between Temple and UAB surged from the Blazers opening as a two-point favorite to reaching as high as eight points, per tracking website Covers.com. UAB covered the spread with a 100-72 win at Temple.
“We are aware of the media reports regarding last night’s men’s basketball game,” Temple said Friday in a statement. “We will review the reports thoroughly in accordance with university and NCAA policies. While we can’t comment any further at this time, we take this matter very seriously.”
The Owls are members of the American Athletic Conference, which confirmed it is a client of U.S. Integrity and had no additional comment. U.S. Integrity said it was in the “very early stages of acquiring information” but otherwise declined to comment on an ongoing investigation. A UAB spokesman declined comment, adding “this does not apply to us.”
The Pennsylvania Gaming Control Board said it “received the alert and are reviewing the matter to see if there’s any impact in Pennsylvania.”
The point spread can dramatically shift when sportsbooks are taking in money on one side of a game. The line could be suspicious if, for example, an overwhelming amount of money came in on UAB — unusual in an otherwise meaningless college basketball game without major injuries or suspensions to key players.
At Westgate, which has sportsbooks in nine states, the line moved from 2 1/2 points to 8 at one point. Jay Kornegay, the race and sports manager at Westgate Las Vegas, said once the line reached 7, the money was even both sides, typically an indication a game is on the level. Sportsbook directors often become suspicious when there is an inordinate amount bet on one side.
“We looked at it closely to monitor any type of injury late,” Kornegay said of the Temple-UAB game. “But when we looked at the box score, everyone played. It’s a big move and that’s not normal, but we didn’t see anything suspicious.”
The Owls were outrebound by UAB 41-19, the worst margin since it was outrebounded by 26 against Cincinnati in January 2019.
Temple is just 11-19 in coach Adam Fisher’s first season and plays the regular-season finale Sunday in San Antonio against UTSA. The Owls open the conference tournament next week in Fort Worth, Texas.
The growth of legal sports betting in the U.S., especially among college-aged people, has prompted concerns about increased stress on athletes and raised the potential for wrongdoing. NCAA President Charlie Baker said earlier this year the NCAA is trying to modify “draconian” penalties college athletes face for breaking rules regarding betting on sports.
The topic drew headlines last year in two prominent cases: About two dozen Iowa State and Iowa athletes were criminally charged after a state investigation into illegal sports wagering; some charges were dropped after investigators were found to have misused tracking software that detected open mobile betting apps in Iowa State athletic facilities.
That happened not long after Alabama fired its baseball coach amid an investigation into suspicious bets involving a Crimson Tide game at LSU; Brad Bohannon was accused of providing information to a gambler who used it to make illegal wagers against the Crimson Tide.
U.S Integrity last May launched a tip line to help athletes, coaches and staff to anonymously report suspicions about gambling activity to regulators and law enforcement.

 

[Patrick McIrish]

What exactly am I surrendering? I told you I don't have power ratings for each team, I don't use a model, that isn't how I cap college hoops, so I can't tell you what line I would have made on the game since that isn't how I cap games, but if it makes you feel better, then okay I surrender

Haha, oh goodness, nobody likes surrender noted.

I was mostly busting chops but with that said how you cap games is irrelevant in this discussion.

Whether you use a data base, your own personal algorithm, blindly use Ken Pom or go by warm fuzzies there has to be a process you use in search of value, right?

However you get there the point is you either like -1 or -10 in a game, you aim to be more efficient than the lines you are playing into.

You clearly are distancing yourself from your regular evaluation process.

I saw you pretty much went with the fix was in and "US Integrity is a hero for us all" so wasn't looking for you to change your mind........

I won't say surrender noted, just saying I respect your decision to back away from trying to support your earlier opinions.

We move on.

 

[Valuist]

We have to look closer at the games of the recent Temple opponents. If you are a college player and thinking of shaving points, you aren't giving up shots or scoring opportunities. You likely would slack off on the defensive side. Tulsa was the recent opponent for Temple. Have to downgrade that win.

 

[Patrick McIrish]

Aside from yesterday's red flag I thought this was interesting as mentioned by the OP:

"The UAB-Temple matchup was flagged Thursday, although a source says Owls games have been monitored for a while"

When I had the darts out and capping the game I think Temple was like 5-2/6-3 ATS their previous games.

In fact they either covered or came within an eyelash of covering all their recent games.

Wonder what they were monitoring and how many other "alerts" they sent out? LOL.

The whole thing is preposterous and you'd have to be a fing idiot to think the fix was in on this game.

US Integrity is a joke and taking advantage of people even dumber than they are.

 

[kane]

We have to look closer at the games of the recent Temple opponents. If you are a college player and thinking of shaving points, you aren't giving up shots or scoring opportunities. You likely would slack off on the defensive side. Tulsa was the recent opponent for Temple. Have to downgrade that win.

Temple allowed UAB to shoot 61% from the field and 56% from three, that's some solid D right there, they were also out rebounded by 22, which is the most they've been out rebounded in the last 6 years, but nothing funny going on, nothing at all to see here

 

[kane]

Game moves 6 points, they play absolutely no defense, give no effort on the boards, and get blown out, but nothing funny going on, LOL

 

[kane]

you'd have to be a fing idiot to think the fix was in on this game.

Right, because there's no history of point shaving in college basketball

 

[kane]

BTW, I don't know if the game was fixed or not, I do know given the line move and the way the game played out it should be looked into

 

[Patrick McIrish]

Game moves 6 points, they play absolutely no defense, give no effort on the boards, and get blown out but nothing funny going on, LOL

Agree, that's pretty much what last place teams in shit conferences do.......

 

[Patrick McIrish]

Right, because there's no history of point shaving in college basketball

There's history of men walking on the moon too but no evidence it's happening today.

 

[howid]

Temple University will review reports that show at least one game involving its men’s basketball team has been flagged

welcome Temple to the club; back in the ''sending money to Juanita Garcia Rodriguez" days I'm pretty sure I was flagged for excessive transferring ...

 

[Patrick McIrish]

BTW, I don't know if the game was fixed or not, I do know given the line move and the way the game played out it should be looked into

Apparently US Integrity has been looking into Temple for a while??

Of course they been covering or within a gnat's hair for their previous 9 or 10 games?

Wait, I know, the mafioso's were paying a guy to play great defense to get the cover, this game they had him relax so they would lose!!!

One guy with adjusting levels of how he plays defense on a last place team in a shit conference generates HUGE SWINGS in a game!

The crime syndicates couldn't lose with this in their pocket!!! LOL!

 

[kane]

Apparently US Integrity has been looking into Temple for a while??

Of course they been covering or within a gnat's hair for their previous 9 or 10 games?

Wait, I know, the mafioso's were paying a guy to play great defense to get the cover, this game they had him relax so they would lose!!!

One guy with adjusting levels of how he plays defense on a last place team in a shit conference generates HUGE SWINGS in a game!

The crime syndicates couldn't lose with this in their pocket!!! LOL!

I don't know what happened in their previous games, not do I care, I do know what happened in their last game deserves looking into

 

[Patrick McIrish]

We have to look closer at the games of the recent Temple opponents. If you are a college player and thinking of shaving points, you aren't giving up shots or scoring opportunities. You likely would slack off on the defensive side. Tulsa was the recent opponent for Temple. Have to downgrade that win.

Right! A starving college kid would never lay down offensively, they would only lay down on defense.

You have to maintain standards when being paid to fix CBB games with your "defense", LOL.

I think Kane and this man has solved it!

 

[kane]

For the season Temple allows teams to shoot 44% from the field and 33% from three, UAB shot 61% from the field and 56% from three
For the season Temple out rebounds their opponents by an average of 1 rebound per game, UAB out rebounded them by 22
All of that in a game in March that moved 6 points, even though games this late in the season never move that much, but nothing weird going on, Temple just had one of those games I guess

 

[Patrick McIrish]

I don't know what happened in their previous games, not do I care, I do know what happened in their last game deserves looking into

Yes, you've said that several times now.

Hopefully after they are done investigating if Trump is actually a double agent working for Russia they will get to this one next.

Not to be condescending but there's a reason Biden voters exist, not everyone is going to see what a reasonably intelligent 9 years old would see over his lunch break.

At some point you just wish them the best and move on.

Yeah, hope they get to the bottom of this one, that game should have went to double OT if they were playing defense!!

Sigh.


THE HIGH ROAD, IT'S MORE A WAY OF LIFE THAN A LOCATION!!!

 

[kane]

A starving college kid would never lay down offensively, they would only lay down on defense.

Temple's starters shot 31% from the field and 28% from three, just a random bad shooting game I guess

 

[kane]

I know how much you love getting in the last word, so after your next post I'm done here, there's nothing more I can post that I haven't already, feel free to post your surrender thing

 

[Patrick McIrish]

Temple's starters shot 31% from the field and 28% from three, just a random bad shooting game I guess.....

Google SSS (small sample size) or have someone explain it, that would help the discussion for next time.

 

[Patrick McIrish]

I know how much you love getting in the last word, so after your next post I'm done here, there's nothing more I can post that I haven't already, feel free to post your surrender thing

Not about the last word, just a discussion in my world. I don't disagree with posters, just posts. Respond to topics and ideas, not people.

With a long history of playing sports, professional level writing skills, underrated smarts and a penchant at seeing through bullshit these talks are always a walk in the park for me.

I leave emotions out of it, probably why I don't get ran off sites when exchanging opinions with others. It's not the end of the world to disagree.

But frankly other than your sustained and demonstrative "FSU should be playing for a natty" display this is one of your worst ideas in a while.

Someone at US Integrity must be laughing their assess off at the people taking the bait, LOL.

Okay, surrender noted, we move on.