Donnie is absolutely smashing Joseph

mr merlin

EOG Master
I think come election time we will be counting votes again.

They will beat the abortion drum, that's a killer for the right. And as time goes on that STONE is only going to get bigger.

And then you got the Swifties, her first album was like 17 years ago, hard to believe but yes most her fans are voters by now.

In fact the 10 biggest influencers in this country are all as far left as you can get.

The world revolves around social media, expect the left to take advantage of it.

In conjunction the marketing crew will get the college crowd energized with some sort of catchy phrase to drive liberal voters to the booths.

Their convention, what a joke but it will appeal to the idiots on the other side.

And lastly the questionable tactics on vote day are not going to stop, if anything they are more experienced now.

I really hope Trump and his staff aren't as over-confident as the public seems to be, the fight hasn't even begun yet. :(
I recall vividly in 2016 the "big news" a week or so before the election was that lebron james came out for hillary - ESPN and even regular networks went wall to wall for a day or more, blathering on about how significant that was, that lebron and his cleveland/ohio connections was going to be decisive in ohio - which back then was considered a key swing state.

It was considered dead even when lebron made his endorsement and trump won by like 8 pts.

The bottom line is yea, people like certain celebrities but they aren't stupid, they realize there's little connections between fame and politics. Everyone knows Taylor Swift backs democrats, if she came right out and said it it wouldn't change a thing.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Biden has locked the middle class out from buying a home. Of course (home) prices have soared but few are selling. If you're locked into a 2.7 why sell and get a mortgage for 7 percent? Moreover, very few new builds because more expensive to finance.

My house has gone up huge in OC, but a dead asset. More of a liability.
Dont ignore the millions - yes millions of illegals pouring in that need somewhere to live, they are a main factor in driving rents up as they create a rental housing scarcity in much of the country.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Okay
I am going to provide some more accurate numbers:

average gallon of gas under Trump was $2.57. under Biden $3.61

average rent under Trump was $1371 a month. under Biden $1535 a month.

On Inauguration Day 01/20/2021, the stock market numbers compared to yesterday's close 07/19/2024:

DOW was 30,930 and now it is 40,287. increase of 30%
S&P 500 was 3798 and now it is 5505. increase 45%
NASDAQ was 13,197 and now it is 17,726. increase of 34%

Bitcoin was 35,500 and now it is 67,072 as i type this. increase 89%
Ethereum was 1385 and now it is 3503. increase 153%

Gold was $1840 now it is $2402. increase 30%
Silver was $25 now it is $29.50 increase 18%

And for those of us who own properties in Blue States especially here in CA have seen our home values go from average $635K on 1/20/2021 up to $858K today so an increase of 35% in Equity in the last 3.5 years.

Even passive investors in 401K's, IRA's, 529's, etc etc etc have made money with their eyes closed without even lifting a finger.

Many many tens of millions (especially in Blue States) have earned many many many millions in the last 42 months since Joseph Biden took office.
Your numbers are prob accurate but misleading, trump didn't magically reduce oil and gas prices when he took office, it took awhile, instead of using averages what is the rent now vs when trump left office? I'm not sure what the price of bitcoin and silver, etc has to do with anything either.

I hear biden bragging that inflation is down to 3%, is it, i go to the store, are prices on a $2-3 item only 6 or 8 cents higher than they were? No, what used to cost $1.99(just a year or so ago) is now $2.48, that's not 3% and people see that.
 

Patrick McIrish

OCCams raZOR
I recall vividly in 2016 the "big news" a week or so before the election was that lebron james came out for hillary - ESPN and even regular networks went wall to wall for a day or more, blathering on about how significant that was, that lebron and his cleveland/ohio connections was going to be decisive in ohio - which back then was considered a key swing state.

It was considered dead even when lebron made his endorsement and trump won by like 8 pts.

The bottom line is yea, people like certain celebrities but they aren't stupid, they realize there's little connections between fame and politics. Everyone knows Taylor Swift backs democrats, if she came right out and said it it wouldn't change a thing.

Did you just compare Taylor Swift to Brick /Hillary? I can't think of a more disliked people sandwich than those 2. And yes, absolutely, people are stupid.

I disagree on the impact celebrities can have and Swift is in a league by herself. We saw with just an appearance or two what Taylor meant to the NFL.

Endorsements have been a big part of selling for as long as I can remember. What kind of car to buy, what kind of deodorant to use and everything in between.

And now money paid to these internet celebrities with "influence" is absurd. There's a reason for it, Mike.

Old crusty fucks like you and I may not be but most of the young people in the world are heavily influenced by social media and what mega-stars are doing.

I hope you're right, hope this buzz can be sustained all the way through until the end........ I'm just very skeptical.

It's like recovering a fumble in the 1Q, having all the momentum and expecting it to last through the end of the game.

Maybe I'm wrong, hoping I'm wrong, but I don't think we're even to halftime yet in this race, to relax now would be political suicide IMO.

We move on.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Did you just compare Taylor Swift to Brick /Hillary? I can't think of a more disliked people sandwich than those 2. And yes, absolutely, people are stupid.

I disagree on the impact celebrities can have and Swift is in a league by herself. We saw with just an appearance or two what Taylor meant to the NFL.

Endorsements have been a big part of selling for as long as I can remember. What kind of car to buy, what kind of deodorant to use and everything in between.

And now money paid to these internet celebrities with "influence" is absurd. There's a reason for it, Mike.

Old crusty fucks like you and I may not be but most of the young people in the world are heavily influenced by social media and what mega-stars are doing.

I hope you're right, hope this buzz can be sustained all the way through until the end........ I'm just very skeptical.

It's like recovering a fumble in the 1Q, having all the momentum and expecting it to last through the end of the game.

Maybe I'm wrong, hoping I'm wrong, but I don't think we're even to halftime yet in this race, to relax now would be political suicide IMO.

We move on.
I said the other day that things cant get any better for trump than they've been , it can only get worse or stay the same.

As far as taylor swift goes, I doubt she endorses anyone, why should she, it'll only hurt her? I also think the people she might sway are already democrats.
 

Patrick McIrish

OCCams raZOR
I said the other day that things cant get any better for trump than they've been , it can only get worse or stay the same.
Exactly. I agree. By November there will be 10 more major events since the assassination and most will probably hurt Trump.

As I said in 2020 to a few notable posters, Trump is not a lock.

(In fairness I didn't think he would win in 2016 so for sure I'm not infallible) :)
 

Patrick McIrish

OCCams raZOR
As far as taylor swift goes, I doubt she endorses anyone, why should she, it'll only hurt her? I also think the people she might sway are already democrats.

Or people who don't usually vote and/or not registered in the past. Read up on her if not familiar, it's absolutely crazy how loyal her following is.

But FTR I wasn't saying Swift alone, I'm talking the whole lib bandwagon which includes most sport stars, college campus, Hollyweird, the media and so on.......

Whether we think people are susceptible or not there is a lot of horses in the barn for the other side. To think the race is over seems a bit unrealistic IMO.

We might not even recognize the world we live in today when November rolls around......
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Or people who don't usually vote and/or not registered in the past. Read up on her if not familiar, it's absolutely crazy how loyal her following is.

But FTR I wasn't saying Swift alone, I'm talking the whole lib bandwagon which includes most sport stars, college campus, Hollyweird, the media and so on.......

Whether we think people are susceptible or not there is a lot of horses in the barn for the other side. To think the race is over seems a bit unrealistic IMO.

We might not even recognize the world we live in today when November rolls around......
You're kinda mr doom and gloom patrick, you are right Trump is not a lock but he's in a better position than anyone's been in at least 12 years.
 

raycabino

Long Live Wilson!
Or people who don't usually vote and/or not registered in the past. Read up on her if not familiar, it's absolutely crazy how loyal her following is.

But FTR I wasn't saying Swift alone, I'm talking the whole lib bandwagon which includes most sport stars, college campus, Hollyweird, the media and so on.......

Whether we think people are susceptible or not there is a lot of horses in the barn for the other side. To think the race is over seems a bit unrealistic IMO.

We might not even recognize the world we live in today when November rolls around......
I agree with all of this. I currently have a monster no trump position that i started building 2 months ago when I thought the chances of biden being the dem candidate was dropping. Added big to it after debate and line when nuts thinkign biden was really likely not to run then tacked on a bunch more after the assasination attempt thinking that the incident wasnt as positive for trump as the market made it out to be ( i think i was incorrect about my thinking here as i diditn get the bounce back in the next coupek days that i thought i would get). I'm pretty sure the time will come where i am able to come over the time as big as I want on trump at -135 or better vs harris and posssibly +100 or better if it's any other candidate besides kamala. Time will tell lol.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
I agree with all of this. I currently have a monster no trump position that i started building 2 months ago when I thought the chances of biden being the dem candidate was dropping. Added big to it after debate and line when nuts thinkign biden was really likely not to run then tacked on a bunch more after the assasination attempt thinking that the incident wasnt as positive for trump as the market made it out to be ( i think i was incorrect about my thinking here as i diditn get the bounce back in the next coupek days that i thought i would get). I'm pretty sure the time will come where i am able to come over the time as big as I want on trump at -135 or better vs harris and posssibly +100 or better if it's any other candidate besides kamala. Time will tell lol.
So you think the best RNC convention in decades and trump surviving an assassination attempt means nothing, but a sitting president dropping out in late july because of senility is a sign of strength, gotcha. Sounds like your logic is skewed based on hope?
 

raycabino

Long Live Wilson!
So you think the best RNC convention in decades and trump surviving an assassination attempt means nothing, but a sitting president dropping out in late july because of senility is a sign of strength, gotcha. Sounds like your logic is skewed based on hope?
I think the people think a lot differently than you think. You are in a big red bubble. That's the people you connect/converse with (that's fine). But it also give you tunnel vision. Bottom line is anybody and i mean anybody gives the dems a better shot than biden does. As far as the Republican convention goes (good, great or however you think it went) is over now and market has done whatever adjusting it will do for that. Everything coming in the near future is things to give dems momentum imo. I plan on having a big trump position before this election goes , i jsut plan on supporting himat a lot cheaper prices then he currently is. Here's to hoping I'm correct.
 

Patrick McIrish

OCCams raZOR
So you think the best RNC convention in decades and trump surviving an assassination attempt means nothing.....

Recency bias.

BTW the difference between what you and Ray are saying could best be summed up by your recent views on gambling.

"Fuck the odds". "I don't care nothing about the odds". Think that's accurate as to what you posted?

Compare that to Ray who's life is about the odds, about weighing things out, about staying balanced.

No offense but you have the face-painted homer version, he's trying to give you a more balanced evaluation of what is going on.
 

Patrick McIrish

OCCams raZOR
Easy boys. We're all on the same side gentlemen, my version though is the race is FAR from over. That's all.

The left has virtually unlimited funds, a lot of time to adjust, pretty much controls the media and has shown a propensity to do anything to win.

And by that I mean CHEAT!

So while it's easy to get caught up in the recent momentum of the Trump campaign this isn't going to be the lay-up we might think it's going to be.

Who knows, could be dead wrong. I hope so. We move on.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Recency bias.

BTW the difference between what you and Ray are saying could best be summed up by your recent views on gambling.

"Fuck the odds". "I don't care nothing about the odds". Think that's accurate as to what you posted?

Compare that to Ray who's life is about the odds, about weighing things out, about staying balanced.

No offense but you have the face-painted homer version, he's trying to give you a more balanced evaluation of what is going on.
I dont bet on this stuff, and talk about recency bias, what were the odds the day trump was convicted, the day before the debate, the day after the debate, same with the assassination, and now we have this, the odds dont matter at this point, and they are utterly meaningless to who'll win in Nov..

Right now they will be taking a whole shitload of polls, if kamalla does poorly in them, which she will in swing states, all of a sudden they will talk up someone else. Then when kamalla picks a VP and the media strokes their shlong over them for a day or two the odds will shift again.
 

homie1975

EOG Addicted
Donnie is already floating the idea that he may skip the second and last debate and that if it does occur it should happen on FOX not on ABC.

he is scared to death right now LOL
 

homie1975

EOG Addicted
go look what your lord and savior TRUMP did to increase the deficit. it DOUBLED under him!

just like Reagan where national debt went up 4x from when he took over from Dummy Jimmy Carter

men playing women's sports and vice versa? if it is NOT the WNBA or any female sport that matters then who fukking cares ??

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS commit fewer crimes per capital than USA Born citizens. FACT !!!

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS take jobs that we USA born white collar and business owners do NOT WANT !

they keep inflation down !!

Hail Unkraine! Israel and Hamas ceasefire coming under Joe's watch.

MORE has gone up than just my primary and investment property value !!!
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
go look what your lord and savior TRUMP did to increase the deficit. it DOUBLED under him!

just like Reagan where national debt went up 4x from when he took over from Dummy Jimmy Carter

men playing women's sports and vice versa? if it is NOT the WNBA or any female sport that matters then who fukking cares ??

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS commit fewer crimes per capital than USA Born citizens. FACT !!!

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS take jobs that we USA born white collar and business owners do NOT WANT !

they keep inflation down !!

Hail Unkraine! Israel and Hamas ceasefire coming under Joe's watch.

MORE has gone up than just my primary and investment property value !!!
Since illegals shouldn't even be here even 1 crime is too many, am I wrong on that?

You seem very bitter today my friend, it's ok, it's only politics, I have no doubt at some point in the next 3+ months trump will have a bad day and you can feel good at least temporaraily.
 

Heim

EOG Master
I'm trying to wrap my head around how a bullet aimed a inch to the right (more) changes the entire political climate in this country.

Game of inches for sure!
 

homie1975

EOG Addicted
Since illegals shouldn't even be here even 1 crime is too many, am I wrong on that?

You seem very bitter today my friend, it's ok, it's only politics, I have no doubt at some point in the next 3+ months trump will have a bad day and you can feel good at least temporaraily.

Red Team started spiking their football already right after the RNC.

Trump calling Zelensky LOLOL

(the perfect call again right Donnie?)

Red Team got caught with a stiff uppercut and it landed flush.

Red Team hobbled.

you know it. i know it. we all know it.

The Race just changed big time.

Bills comeback over Oilers 1992
 

MrTop

EOG Master
go look what your lord and savior TRUMP did to increase the deficit. it DOUBLED under him!

just like Reagan where national debt went up 4x from when he took over from Dummy Jimmy Carter

men playing women's sports and vice versa? if it is NOT the WNBA or any female sport that matters then who fukking cares ??

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS commit fewer crimes per capital than USA Born citizens. FACT !!!

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS take jobs that we USA born white collar and business owners do NOT WANT !

they keep inflation down !!

Hail Unkraine! Israel and Hamas ceasefire coming under Joe's watch.

MORE has gone up than just my primary and investment property value !!!


trump added 7 trillion - 8 trillion

if they change some laws they can knock down 100 trillion.. it's only a matter of when

but they better look at it closer
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Red Team started spiking their football already right after the RNC.

Trump calling Zelensky LOLOL

(the perfect call again right Donnie?)

Red Team got caught with a stiff uppercut and it landed flush.

Red Team hobbled.

you know it. i know it. we all know it.

The Race just changed big time.

Bills comeback over Oilers 1992
Zelelnsky called trump and he accepted it, what's he supposed to do?

I believe with 100% certainty that trump will end the war before he takes office if he wins.

They wont want to give trump credit so they'll surrender before he takes office, ukriane will lose roughly 40% of the country, promise to never join nato and that'll be it.

I saw today the warmonger boris johnson said he thinks trump will end the war, trump met him a couple days ago.
 
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MrTop

EOG Master
winning the election is one thing... the donald still has to do something about china going after taiwan ...probably with not a shot fired
chee says it will happen soon
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
winning the election is one thing... the donald still has to do something about china going after taiwan ...probably with not a shot fired
chee says it will happen soon
Trump should tell taiwan that their days of independence are over, give Xi the green light to take over.
 

Heim

EOG Master
Trump is power hungry but wears it on his sleeve.

Kamala is no different also with zero scruples to gain power, but hides it well.

Gimme the former over the latter any day...
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Trump is power hungry but wears it on his sleeve.

Kamala is no different also with zero scruples to gain power, but hides it well.

Gimme the former over the latter any day...
You want to hear a good one, my local left wing talk radio station called on trump to drop out too so it'll be fair.
 

Neveragain

EOG Dedicated
I'm pretty sure the time will come where i am able to come over the time as big as I want on trump at -135 or better vs harris and posssibly +100 or better if it's any other candidate besides kamala. Time will tell lol.

After the Kamala speech today the pinnacle line moved from -212 to -204 on Trump.

Boggles the mind what offshore sites will take on this election.
Betfair alone booked a half billion in 2020 and they’ll likely smash it this November.

I’m just a rec player and Pinnacle will take $29k on trump from me today on a vote 100 days away.
With a hold of just 4.28%.
Crazy volume, more action for the offshore books in this market than the SB by far.
 
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