You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

ZZ CREAM

EOG Master
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

You will find out who your friends are now JMan......Good Luck!


P.S. I watched 'Diner' yesterday and thought of you and Ronnie Franklin!
 

Journeyman

EOG Master
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

I forgot to answer the question about money.

I stayed because I loved the job, money was pretty good but I can make more on my own now that I have left the job that ended up taking up so much time.

I will miss posting for sure.
 

Journeyman

EOG Master
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

JMan...got any good or bad things to say about Marty? Where does he fit in with all this?


IMO he is nothing but a figure head who doesn't really have anything to do with day to day operations, another non forum guy who is in a position he shouldn't be in...

I had spoke to him a few times when he first came to the Rx and wasn't impressed....kind of stuffy "I'm a big shot type guy" , similar to Rick actually.

And this I know for a fact - Marty doesn't even make those 'Marty J picks'.

I get the impression he's not a real sports fan , that I don't know for a fact but you can sort of tell ....

Marty wasn't a forum guy either and we kind of cringed when he would try to be one...his biggest blunder was the Bos guarantee...since then he hung up his keyboard.
 

Journeyman

EOG Master
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

Its weird, because every mod I have met face to face (yes including wil) has always seemed to be very nice. Its interesting to hear the other sides of the story.

I am not saying they arent nice at all, they are nice guys, and they do care, but they are told what to say now and you can tell which ones really want to do what Rick says...

I have talked to Wilheim dozens of times on the phone, in fact i spoke to him just Thursday and had a nice conversation...Wil has to do what he has to do and does a very good job overall...I will miss Wil....he's old school and sometimes that gets in the way but he always means well.
 

WVU

EOG Master
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

3k per month is a nice chunk for a mod. I would imagine there are plenty that would do it for much less. Jman will be hard to replace though, as he posted some good stuff.
 
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

JMan,

You always know that I appreciated what you contributed to TheRx as a poster and I believe your unique ability to create threads out of nothing will be missed by them...

There is only one other person I am familiar with who enjoys doing that, too...:rolleyes:

You keep bringing up the fact TheRx was less than forthright about criticizing their sponsors and I do admire you for not saying something positive about a shitty sports book...

We allow our posters here at EOG to say anything and everything about bookmakers regardless of advertising revenue....

Paying us buys them banners but it doesn't protect them from FREE SPEECH...

With that said and please be 100% HONEST----

1-Was SKYBOOK given PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT over other books who paid to advertise on TheRx?

2- Were any others given an unfair advantage?

Thanks in advance,

THE SHRIN
 

The General

Another Day, Another Dollar
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

I was actually paid the same...my pay was cut briefly...I know most never got it back...when Rick called everyone and told them the news (oh the irony) he also followed it u by saying it was 'short term'....just about everything he ever said either has not happened yet or is delayed by 50% of when he says it will happen...the mods pretty much can't stand him (they won't admit it though)

It really is lame, here we have basically an outsider, a guy who never posted, and still doesn't, unless he's selling something, telling forum veterans what to say and how to post....he has the personality of a house plant.

I doubt very seriously he could even name the Red Sox starting rotation. "GM" my ass.

And in case anyone was wondering 'Marty' doesn't even make those Marty J picks LOL.

I don't think Marty even reads the site he 'owns' lol.

Good ol' Marty, Yeah. The Nicaraguans are being called as we post. Jman he could care less about the rx.


Ken you of all people know how much I loved posting...I didn't really run into any problem til I started dealing with Rick on a daily basis, first he strings me along by asking me to work for Rx odds, which sounded great til i realized I was getting paid the same and working 30 hours straight each morning 7 days a week before the Mod job even started...he told me it would be a 'couple hours' (like 2) just browsing newspapers for injuries....well that turned into a 30 hour a week job...and the kicker was when he then told me I wasnt going to be able to work for him because he wanted everyone to work in an office in LV, this after I spent the entire summer doing that and spent $2000 on extra equipment.

....then I was told what I could and couldn't say, who to suggest as a sportsbook to our posters....he was freakin IMing me and emailing me 4-5 times a day...I quit two days ago but he talked me out of it....I can't stand what he did to that place.

I was not aware of the Xpanda story and wish her the best , even though I realize she will take the Rx side.


Cry me a river. I also want a Dr. Pepper and a Million dollars.
 

Journeyman

EOG Master
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

Do you have any guess as to why you were asked to work on the odds product? Is that even an area of expertise for you? What were the extra TVs and computers going to be for? I dont quite understand...

Probably because I showed that I was knowledgable and was already an employee and it was a way to get me to do more for what I was already getting paid.

as for the TVs , they want to have instant updates, and watching several games at once was going to be part of it...that is what i was told.
 

roach23

Banned
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

3k per month is a nice chunk for a mod. I would imagine there are plenty that would do it for much less. Jman will be hard to replace though, as he posted some good stuff.

yea not bad at all to grade some contests and post with a bunch of your degenerate buddies.

no wonder it seems like teazeman is auditioning so hard for a spot.
 

cheapseats

EOG Master
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

Just saw a Wil reply, and it seems jman has crossed the line in the sand...wow to say the least.
 

Journeyman

EOG Master
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

Good ol' Marty, Yeah. The Nicaraguans are being called as we post. Jman he could care less about the rx.





Cry me a river. I also want a Dr. Pepper and a Million dollars.

30 hours a week BEFORE the Mod day started General...I started at 7 AM and did the Odds work til 11 AM...none of the other mods even knew....so I was doing that and the other job , which put me on the site very early and very late.
 

VegasMike01

EOG Addicted
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

Probably because I showed that I was knowledgable and was already an employee and it was a way to get me to do more for what I was already getting paid.

as for the TVs , they want to have instant updates, and watching several games at once was going to be part of it...that is what i was told.

If they want instant updates they should just subscribe to gjupdate and punch our scores in...
:bank:
 

roach23

Banned
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

JMan...Wil says you owe big money. And he said they were gonna pay it out of your salary...

True or False?
 

Journeyman

EOG Master
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

3k per month is a nice chunk for a mod. I would imagine there are plenty that would do it for much less. Jman will be hard to replace though, as he posted some good stuff.


I was one of a kind and they knew it....Rick hated me yet still dealt with me because he knew what I brought to the table.

The last straw was last week when big shot Rick says to me , 'why are you betting that much on a game anyway'? As if I was some low level degenerate who doesn't have two nickles to rub together....these were relatively middle range bets for me....I told him later it was BS thing to say.

He then wondered why I had a problem with the check sent to me that bounced and said, "that is no reason for you to bounce a check" fucking clown actually said that to me...as I had complained that my checks bounced after Bad Co bounced a check to me....

the list of things he said and did like some spoiled rich kid is endless....not to mention how he disappeared all summer, every mod was wondering WTF he did for his pay and where he was and why he talked down to them....they all know they said and thought that.
 

Journeyman

EOG Master
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

You will find out who your friends are now JMan......Good Luck!


P.S. I watched 'Diner' yesterday and thought of you and Ronnie Franklin!


It doesn't matter to me...I know how it is...how it goes, what are they suppose to say? I know what they said to me privately over the years.
 

VegasMike01

EOG Addicted
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

I am just wondering when Shrink is going to post one of his signature HitWise graphs..
:party
 

Journeyman

EOG Master
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

JMan,

You always know that I appreciated what you contributed to TheRx as a poster and I believe your unique ability to create threads out of nothing will be missed by them...

There is only one other person I am familiar with who enjoys doing that, too...:rolleyes:

You keep bringing up the fact TheRx was less than forthright about criticizing their sponsors and I do admire you for not saying something positive about a shitty sports book...

We allow our posters here at EOG to say anything and everything about bookmakers regardless of advertising revenue....

Paying us buys them banners but it doesn't protect them from FREE SPEECH...

With that said and please be 100% HONEST----

1-Was SKYBOOK given PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT over other books who paid to advertise on TheRx?

2- Were any others given an unfair advantage?


THE SHRINK


The new approach to protecting sponsors was something I never thought I'd see ...it was so far over the top it was pathetic...very very fake, but again that is what Rick Allec brings to the table , a fake person only thinking of himself....he's like the kid in the neighborhood who won't let anyone ride his bike and says 'my parents won't let me'... he's that fucking over the top with his policy on everything.

Of course Skybook was given better treatment, they own the RX. :rolleyes: I'm not sure to what degree they are looked out for over any other book that is on their site.

The worst part about the new policy is when Rick asks the mods to suggest the lesser books over the BetJamaica's...

He literally made a post with the order of which to suggest and BetJamaica wasn't even in the top 8 lol...I just laughed to myself....I'm not sure whether he believes it himself or he's is just that big a tool.
 

VegasMike01

EOG Addicted
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

The new approach to protecting sponsors was something I never thought I'd see ...it was so far over the top it was pathetic...very very fake, but again that is what Rick Allec brings to the table , a fake person only thinking of himself....he's like the kid in the neighborhood who won't let anyone ride his bike and says 'my parents won't let me'... he's that fucking over the top with his policy on everything.

Of course Skybook was given better treatment, they own the RX. :rolleyes: I'm not sure to what degree they are looked out for over any other book that is on their site.

The worst part about the new policy is when Rick asks the mods to suggest the lesser books over the BetJamaica's...

He literally made a post with the order of which to suggest and BetJamaica wasn't even in the top 8 lol...I just laughed to myself....I'm not sure whether he believes it himself or he's is just that big a tool.

what is the order?
 

The General

Another Day, Another Dollar
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

The new approach to protecting sponsors was something I never thought I'd see ...it was so far over the top it was pathetic...very very fake, but again that is what Rick Allec brings to the table , a fake person only thinking of himself....he's like the kid in the neighborhood who won't let anyone ride his bike and says 'my parents won't let me'... he's that fucking over the top with his policy on everything.

Of course Skybook was given better treatment, they own the RX. :rolleyes: I'm not sure to what degree they are looked out for over any other book that is on their site.

The worst part about the new policy is when Rick asks the mods to suggest the lesser books over the BetJamaica's...

He literally made a post with the order of which to suggest and BetJamaica wasn't even in the top 8 lol...I just laughed to myself....I'm not sure whether he believes it himself or he's is just that big a tool.



One of the worst things I ever experienced at the rx was listening to Roy bitch about the negative threads concerning Skybook. He came up with the wonderful idea of creating a new room. A room that HID the complaints.
 

Journeyman

EOG Master
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

I don't know the order and I can't retrieve it now, it was listed in a thread in the Mod area, I just laughed at it....put it this way, it didn't start with anyone the vast majority would have anywhere near the top.

It was wrong to even make a list like that....it was very clear that the more Rick was involved the less anyone could say without him pokaying it....which is really weak considering he came from nowhere to be 'GM' of a posting forum.

He either bought his way in or was brought in soley as an investent in hopes that he could turn the RxOdds product that he's schilling, will bring in a lot of revenue....I think it will be a flop and I'm not just saying that now.

I don't think the market is there anymore, not like they hoped , if he was his own small business maybe it would be profitable but not considering the massive amount of expenditure he's brought with it.
 

Journeyman

EOG Master
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

What was the story with the Kojak termination?


Kojak was a token mod, best way to put it...I'm sure he's a decent guy and all, and this is not against him...he was never really a real mod...he was a friend of one of the owners...he does a good job with his sports talk though IMO.
 

Journeyman

EOG Master
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

One of the worst things I ever experienced at the rx was listening to Roy bitch about the negative threads concerning Skybook. He came up with the wonderful idea of creating a new room. A room that HID the complaints.

Thankfully I was never a part of that stuff...he was very nice to me.
 

Journeyman

EOG Master
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

I see the Rx is over there spinning it and have already announced replacements lol...I guess they can afford two since I am gone...I thank those who are taking up for me.

I won't klnock Wil who is speaking out of place and can only say 'he is a puppet to Rick' and will say what he has to to keep his job.
 
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

JMan...

Was there internal disappointment when Choptalk and ACE-ACE both tanked last year?

How much is/was ACE-ACE being compensated?
 

The General

Another Day, Another Dollar
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

He either bought his way in or was brought in soley as an investent in hopes that he could turn the RxOdds product that he's schilling, will bring in a lot of revenue....I think it will be a flop and I'm not just saying that now.

He was brought in because Roy nor Marty need nor care for the rx. It is a friggin write-off for those people.
 

Journeyman

EOG Master
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

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In our industry, there is one thing, no matter who is right or who is wrong, that is threatening to call the cops on anyone is absolutely unforgivable, no matter what the facts. Jman has made these threats on the phone, and now he is even proudly posting them at EOG.

The above quote is from Jman at EOG.


This is hilarious, SportSavant telling me not to mention anything when I have had death threats..yeah okay I'm gonna be a stand upguy while I have death threats put out on me by some chump local....I take it seriously Jack sorry .

I will take off the gloves and start talking about how you run those little contests to put people into those rookie books and other thing you do that are questionable.

it's not illegal to mention a bookie but it is illegal to threaten someones life, sorry if you can't see what is really serious for a second and not worry about your Mod job.



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roach23

Banned
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

JMan...

Was there internal disappointment when Choptalk and ACE-ACE both tanked last year?

How much is/was ACE-ACE being compensated?

good question. also...who are the other posters who are paid to post at the RX??
 

The General

Another Day, Another Dollar
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

Roy wanted as many paid posters as he could afford. He had a dozen ghosts to shill for his and other Friend's sports books.

BTW, Yes it is personal and maybe yet to begin.!!!
 

Flamingo kid

Everybody's hands go UP!
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

How does this thread have 2,700 views?

That's crazy.:LMAO :LMAO :LMAO
 

Journeyman

EOG Master
Re: You can't keep me silent over here Rick Allec.

JMan...

Was there internal disappointment when Choptalk and ACE-ACE both tanked last year?

How much is/was ACE-ACE being compensated?

I don't know what ACE ACE makes , but I will tell you this, he is laughed at in the board room and the owner realizes he is a losing better who will send the following down the drain, which in turn makes the owner a lof of money.

We are told to protect ACE but you rarely see any mod besides Wil saying anything to protect him....he's pretty much a trainwreck with his 4th grading typing ability and his chasing .
 
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