Miami Heat

kane

EOG master
Barkley on Spo

"I will tell you this, people ask me all the time about Erik Spoelstra, like, hey he was great when Dwyane and Lebron and Chris were there." I said no, they're one of the best coached teams in the NBA. They remind me of the Spurs. They get guys off the scrap heap or guys who were undrafted and they make them good players. That is coaching."

Kendrick Perkins said Spoelstra "coached circles around Mike Budenholzer"
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Miami would be tough in a 3-on-3 playground tournament with the underrated trio of Dragic, Butler and Adebayo.

Throw in the 20-year-old phenom Tyler Herro and the entry of Pat Riley and Eric Spoelstra and you have a live underdog headed to the NBA Finals.
 

GameBred

I Trade Therefore I Am
Miami would be tough in a 3-on-3 playground tournament with the underrated trio of Dragic, Butler and Adebayo.

Throw in the 20-year-old phenom Tyler Herro and the entry of Pat Riley and Eric Spoelstra and you have a live underdog headed to the NBA Finals.

Kudos to them, nothing but respect but this ends one way.
 
Miami to win the series has been getting pounded at Pinnacle & elsewhere.

Or, alternately, one of more respected sharps influenced the line move.
 

GameBred

I Trade Therefore I Am
Miami to win the series has been getting pounded at Pinnacle & elsewhere.

Or, alternately, one of more respected sharps influenced the line move.

Are these are the same Clowns who had UniBron marked at 49' Season wins, which I berated. I said UniBron would burn down the LG and so far, they have accrued the #1 Seed, and made it to the Finals in 15 games.

Weren't they supposedly a sitting duck in RD 1?

Wasn't small ball supposed to oust them in RD 2?

Weren't the Comeback Kids suppose to shock the world and never die until UniBron double-tapped those Zombies in RD 3?

What's the narrative now? Sharps are picking MIa? No, they just think the price is right on Mia; doesn't mean they actually think they are going to win.
 

GameBred

I Trade Therefore I Am
What's the narrative now? Sharps are picking MIa? No, they just think the price is right on Mia; doesn't mean they actually think they are going to win.

Pricing NBA isn't my thing anymore so I can't tell you what the approximate price should be, rather I can tell you what it shouldn't. E.G. Heims +160 is insane. I know that just becuase I have a brain.

Now, I don't know who is going to win the Finals, don't have a clue but UniBron should be strong favorites. Unsceintifically, 75% chance or greater.
 
-375/280 on draftkings right now.

That's about the same dog price i've seen this morning at Pinnacle, 888Sport, Betonline & Playnow.

Betonline -335 for the LAL & Pinnacle -344 now. Since yesterday Pinnacle got some action, or buyback, on the Lakers.

Several books had it around +300 for Miami yesterday.
 

kane

EOG master
Miami to win the series has been getting pounded at Pinnacle & elsewhere.

Or, alternately, one of more respected sharps influenced the line move.

The series opened way too high, the Lakers probably win, but their price was way too high
 
"GameBred, post: 7647211, member: 55198"
Sharps are picking MIa? No, they just think the price is right on Mia; doesn't mean they actually think they are going to win.

Of course sharps would bet Miami at a certain price because they see it being +EV or a value bet, not that they think Miami will win or should be the favorite. Didn't you say you were a trader?

Here's sherwood's writeup on why he's taken Miami +306 to win the series:

https://www.sportswagers.ca/nba/
 
quit speaking fucking Sputnik..... American Odds :)

In terms of Implied Win %'s it's 76/24.... Fair Price ~ +/- 300 (75/25).... not bad for Uncle Bred:)

Do you have a problem with American odds? Where do you live? Bet a lot on Aussie & British sites or Exchanges?
 

GameBred

I Trade Therefore I Am
Of course sharps would bet Miami at a certain price because they see it being +EV or a value bet, not that they think Miami will win or should be the favorite. Didn't you say you were a trader?

Here's sherwood's writeup on why he's taken Miami +306 to win the series:

https://www.sportswagers.ca/nba/

Yes. What does that have to do w/ the price of tea in China? I still know more about UniBron than the Market.
 

GameBred

I Trade Therefore I Am
Do you have a problem with American odds? Where do you live? Bet a lot on Aussie & British sites or Exchanges?

Yes but not really. I just like being a Euro-Snob and looking down on American Odds, their fine but inferior to decimal or European Odds unless your purely scalping, IMO.

I live in Eastern Europe and strictly use Betfair. Used to fuck around w/ Pinny, SBO and othe Asian Books but it's become uneccessary.
 
Yes. What does that have to do w/ the price of tea in China? I still know more about UniBron than the Market.

It just seemed like an obvious thing to say. Did you think people here are newbies to gambling & didn't know that sharps make bets based on value, not on who they think (as the squarest of squares do) is going to win.

If you know so much more about "UniBron than the market" have you been betting NBA huge & making a killing. Can we see your picks posted anywhere in cyberspace.
 
Yes but not really. I just like being a Euro-Snob and looking down on American Odds, their fine but inferior to decimal or European Odds unless your purely scalping, IMO.

What difference does it make re scalping. You can scalp with any type of odds, whether they're expressed as American, decimal or fractional, etc.

Why would American odds be inferior.

I live in Eastern Europe and strictly use Betfair. Used to fuck around w/ Pinny, SBO and othe Asian Books but it's become uneccessary.

Unnecessary? You can't sometimes find better odds at the other books? You make a living off of BF by trading obscure "football" (soccer) leagues?
 

GameBred

I Trade Therefore I Am
It just seemed like an obvious thing to say. Did you think people here are newbies to gambling & didn't know that sharps make bets based on value, not on who they think (as the squarest of squares do) is going to win.

If you know so much more about "UniBron than the market" have you been betting NBA huge & making a killing. Can we see your picks posted anywhere in cyberspace.

I clearly know more about UniBron than the Market, stop it.... been 100% right, 100% of the time on these guys. There are 500 posts to prove it.... find them yourself. I'm certified on this.

I don't fucking bet and I'm tired of repeating myslef. I'm not going to apologize for trading being more profitable and far less volatile.
 

GameBred

I Trade Therefore I Am
What difference does it make re scalping. You can scalp with any type of odds, whether they're expressed as American, decimal or fractional, etc.

Why would American odds be inferior.

American Odds would be considered SUPERIOR when it comes to scalping. Have you ever manually scalped in your life? Time can be of the essence. +120/-119 scalp is far easier for most to ID then if your getting 2.20 and knowing that 1.84 or above is scalpable; didn't make a difference to me but to most it it would.


Unnecessary? You can't sometimes find better odds at the other books? You make a living off of BF by trading obscure "football" (soccer) leagues?

Of course you can and I used to work those angles but it's not necessary for me anymore. Am I throwig away some EV, sure, but don't care. I do well doing what I do.
 
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GameBred

I Trade Therefore I Am
It just seemed like an obvious thing to say. Did you think people here are newbies to gambling & didn't know that sharps make bets based on value, not on who they think (as the squarest of squares do) is going to win.

If you know so much more about "UniBron than the market" have you been betting NBA huge & making a killing. Can we see your picks posted anywhere in cyberspace.

In general, No, I was trying to come up w/ the new narrative because there has been one for everyone of UniBron's rounds.

Specifically, yes, I think there are some people who may not realize that just because you bet on a team doesn't mean you think they are going to win. You don't know who is lurking and reading this stuff. It's a very important concept to understand and I'm glad I shared it.
 
I clearly know more about UniBron than the Market, stop it.... been 100% right, 100% of the time on these guys. There are 500 posts to prove it.... find them yourself. I'm certified on this.

I don't fucking bet and I'm tired of repeating myslef. I'm not going to apologize for trading being more profitable and far less volatile.

So by the "market", which you capitalized for some reason this time, you mean a couple posters on EOG? Not the betting lines of the market?

You spend so much time here in thread after thread on the subject, plus whatever research you do on the topic, why wouldn't you have the time to spare to also spend just a couple more minutes making some huge wagers to take advantage of where the "market" you refer to is off.
 
American Odds would be considered SUPERIOR when it comes to scalping. Have you ever manually scalped in your life? Time can be of the essence. +120/-119 scalp is far easier for most to ID then if your getting 2.20 and knowing that 1.84 or above is scalpable; didn't make a difference to me but to most it it would.

What difference it would make to most is irrelevant. The point of disagreement is you said American odds are easier for scalping & i say they're not. You as much as admit my point, and essentially retract your statement, with your comment above that it wouldn't "make a difference to [you]".

Also you didn't answer why you think American odds are "inferior to decimal or European Odds unless your purely scalping..."

Of course you can and I used to work those angles but it's not necessary for me anymore. Am I throwig away some EV, sure, but don't care. I do well doing what I do.

Understood. I've found myself throwing away some +EV wagers i could make due to time limits & opting instead to use time that could be used on lesser profits to focus on potentially much larger profits.
 

GameBred

I Trade Therefore I Am
It just seemed like an obvious thing to say. Did you think people here are newbies to gambling & didn't know that sharps make bets based on value, not on who they think (as the squarest of squares do) is going to win.

If you know so much more about "UniBron than the market" have you been betting NBA huge & making a killing. Can we see your picks posted anywhere in cyberspace.

I berated these "Sharps," over UniBron's Season win total and they played 11 less games than scheduled and smashed it. I laughed out loud 1bout 13-Klaws being preseason favorites to win the West. I said UniBron would burn down the LG and they got the 1 seed and won the West in 15 games.

There's even more but just that is called, "Checkmate."

So by the "market", which you capitalized for some reason this time, you mean a couple posters on EOG? Not the betting lines of the market?

LOL. The narrative now is that UniBron was #1 all along, meanwhile, in relilty, the Market had them @ 49' wins and 13-Klaws winning the Wast and faovored to win it all.

You spend so much time here in thread after thread on the subject, plus whatever research you do on the topic, why wouldn't you have the time to spare to also spend just a couple more minutes making some huge wagers to take advantage of where the "market" you refer to is off.

When have I complained about my time? I'm trading 5 games right now, as I type this. Only Clowns like you think Trading is about hitting a buch of 'Hot keys," It's not what you think it is; well maybe for some it's that but not this guy.

Why would I? It's not what the fuck I do, I stay in my lane, that's the discipline. It doesn't mean I don't know how to bet, I clearly do, I just choose to do something less volatile and more profitable. Your ignorance isn't my problem. I pass up +EV Football Bets all the time, I do it for a living, I'm a Trader.
 
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I berated these "Sharps," over UniBron's Season win total and they played 11 less games than scheduled and smashed it. I laughed out loud 1bout 13-Klaws being preseason favorites to win the West. I said UniBron would burn down the LG and they got the 1 seed and won the West in 15 games.

There's even more but just that is called, "Checkmate."

LOL. The narrative now is that UniBron was #1 all along, meanwhile, in relilty, the Market had them @ 49' wins and 13-Klaws winning the Wast and faovored to win it all.

Good call. Hopefully you banged that hard, again & again & again ;

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now & then ;

Got any tickets to prove you put your money where your mouth is ;

https://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/win-totals/
https://www.google.com/search?q=nba...rome..69i57.5211j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

When have I complained about my time? I'm trading 5 games right now, as I type this. Only Clowns like you think Trading is about hitting a buch of 'Hot keys," It's not what you think it is; well maybe for some it's that but not this guy.

Why would I? It's not what the fuck I do, I stay in my lane, that's the discipline. It doesn't mean I don't know how to bet, I clearly do, I just choose to do something less volatile and more profitable. Your ignorance isn't my problem. I pass up +EV Football Bets all the time, I do it for a living, I'm a Trader.

See above. I referred to making a bet or two, not "trading" (whatever you mean by that. Do you trade baseball cards or used panties ; )
 

GameBred

I Trade Therefore I Am
Good call. Hopefully you banged that hard, again & again & again ;

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now & then ;

Got any tickets to prove you put your money where your mouth is ;

https://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/win-totals/
https://www.google.com/search?q=nba...rome..69i57.5211j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8https://www.google.com/search?q=nba...rome..69i57.5211j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
How fucking dumb are you? Seriously, on a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the dumbest, where do you rate yourself? I give you an 11.

I just fucking told you that I don't bet so why would I bang it hard again and again like it's some porn chic? I have no tickets to show you becuase for the 100th time and maybe now it will sink in, I didn't fucking bet it becuase I don't fucking bet. Your total and complete ignornace isn't my problem.

I Don't give 2 fucks about the NBA Markets ineptness in this area. I said this was an example of Markets going episodically haywire at the time and lo and behold, they play 11 less games and still smash their win total #. That's overwhleming evidence, update your priors on who knows more about what.

See above. I referred to making a bet or two, not "trading" (whatever you mean by that. Do you trade baseball cards or used panties ; )

I feed daily on dumb bitches like you. You talk so much shit and have no clue what you're talking about..... Trading can be several things and you can use your imagination.
 
How fucking dumb are you? Seriously, on a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the dumbest, where do you rate yourself? I give you an 11.

I just fucking told you that I don't bet so why would I bang it hard again and again like it's some porn chic? I have no tickets to show you becuase for the 100th time and maybe now it will sink in, I didn't fucking bet it becuase I don't fucking bet. Your total and complete ignornace isn't my problem.

I Don't give 2 fucks about the NBA Markets ineptness in this area. I said this was an example of Markets going episodically haywire at the time and lo and behold, they play 11 less games and still smash their win total #. That's overwhleming evidence, update your priors on who knows more about what.

I feed daily on dumb bitches like you. You talk so much shit and have no clue what you're talking about..... Trading can be several things and you can use your imagination.

LOL.

It's easy to say in retrospect that the LAL smashed their win total with many games to spare. Did you say that before the season started.

Of course you've said repeatedly you don't bet on basketball.

Did you miss the icons after each statement here:

"Hopefully you banged that hard, again & again & again ;

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now & then ;

Got any tickets to prove you put your money where your mouth is ;

I referred to making a bet or two, not "trading" (whatever you mean by that. Do you trade baseball cards or used panties ; ) "

All my points still stand, then, eh. Yes, they do. You're busted ;
 

GameBred

I Trade Therefore I Am
LOL.

It's easy to say in retrospect that the LAL smashed their win total with many games to spare. Did you say that before the season started.

Of course you've said repeatedly you don't bet on basketball.

Did you miss the icons after each statement here:

"Hopefully you banged that hard, again & again & again ;

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now & then ;

Got any tickets to prove you put your money where your mouth is ;

I referred to making a bet or two, not "trading" (whatever you mean by that. Do you trade baseball cards or used panties ; ) "

All my points still stand, then, eh. Yes, they do. You're busted ;

YES! WTF is wrong with you? There is nothing retrospetive about my posting nor has there ever been.

I'm busted alright, busting a nut on your dumb face!!!!
 
YES! WTF is wrong with you? There is nothing retrospetive about my posting nor has there ever been.

I'm busted alright, busting a nut on your dumb face!!!!

LOL.

Show me where you ever said the LAL would cover their season win total with 11 games to spare.

If so, i find it odd that if you really believed that you wouldn't have bet big on it.

Did you call it a lock.

"Hopefully you banged that hard, again & again & again ;

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now & then ;

Got any tickets to prove you put your money where your mouth is ;

I referred to making a bet or two, not "trading" (whatever you mean by that. Do you trade baseball cards or used panties ; ) "

All my points still stand, then, eh. Yes, they do. You're busted ;
 

GameBred

I Trade Therefore I Am
LOL.

Show me where you ever said the LAL would cover their season win total with 11 games to spare.

If so, i find it odd that if you really believed that you wouldn't have bet big on it.

Did you call it a lock.

"Hopefully you banged that hard, again & again & again ;

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now & then ;

Got any tickets to prove you put your money where your mouth is ;

I referred to making a bet or two, not "trading" (whatever you mean by that. Do you trade baseball cards or used panties ; ) "

All my points still stand, then, eh. Yes, they do. You're busted ;

STFU. That wasn't the verbiage, moron. I said a Unibron win total of what was 50 at the time was ridiculously low, I'm getting 49' from Krackman in a podcast as I guess that is where it closed, no idea. I think Poster Pete had an Over 49" as well? Anyway, I talked about this being an example of Markets going episodically haywire akin to Mayweather V. McGrroger. I can't be any more clearer than that. The fact that they smashed it even though they played 11 less games, proves my point.

Did I call it a lock? How old are you, 12? Locks don't exist, no one is going to Lay a Lock, genuis.
 

GameBred

I Trade Therefore I Am
All my points still stand, then, eh. Yes, they do. You're busted ;

LOL. Tell us all, what did you bust me on? The fact that everything I said year ago has come to pass?

All you're doing is giving me an oppurtunity to continually brag about it..... please, continue.
 
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