Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT
Reading this thread is laughable. To make the player out to be the loan victim in this case is just not accurate. This is someone who clearly tried to cheat the book and got caught. Oddsmaker has their rules, as I have heard many people in this thread say on a number of topics, don't break the rules and you have no worries. 8K is a joke to oddsmaker and, knowing this player a bit, they fully expected to make that money back 3 times over if they had allowed him to continue playing there.
To suggest that Ken is in some deal with oddsmaker is also a joke. Ken has gotten players paid when he thought they were in the wrong before, but this time he deemed that the player was wrong. I spoke with him for over an hour about this and after hearing everything that I did, I was surprised that the player would do what he did.
I, personally, am a player and what I make has nothing to do with oddsmaker nor any other book. I simply talked with Ken and after hearing the facts, didn't like what I heard about this players actions. I have disagreed with Ken on some matters, but certainly not this one. Sometimes players try to cheat books, we have to arbitrate with an open mind. Hell, even when trying to have an open mind I still want to side with the player typically, but this time I just couldn't. I'm not rich person, but I have personally given thousands of dollars to people on eog for a variety of reasons, I care about the people here more than anyone, but I also despite lying and cheating. If lying or cheating was ok with me, I would have 10000 times more money than I do now, but trying to cheat someone is inexcusable to me.
The player took a shot at the book and hoped that they'd be a bit more incompetent than they were; he lost that bet. Oddsmaker has me bashed on the forums, losing them money. Oddsmaker figured they would make money on this player alone, but they'll lose that. All because of what? They aren't willing to give in to someone who broke their rules and that they cant trust. You don't try to give a private promo code for a bonus to someone else, you just don't. It was a VIP code and they tried to abuse it; thats unfortunate.
If Ken was scamming someone, or bullshitting, he wouldn't have spent countless hours on this starting the moment he walked in the door. The fact is, many people have done what they claim Ken is doing. People had their mind up before they even heard the ruling. They knew they'd bash Ken if he sided with a book. They know Ken has done some things they may not agree with in the past, so they'll hold it against him in anything they dont agree with in the future. The Shrink has been as honest as a man can be over the last year with everyone here, and he certainly doesn't need oddsmakers money to get by, I think we all know that. The fact is, oddsmaker has their rules set, those were rules were broken, and thats not on anyone but the player. You make your own bed at times.
No one benefits from this player trying to get the best of the book nor making this decision, its simply the only decision that can be made and dealing with people bashing is just a part of life. Ken could have spent zero minutes on this if he knew what he was going to rule, but instead he called Pete, Dozer, oddsmaker, talked with the player and worked for well over 25 hours on this alone. He did that, not to fool anyone, not to cheat anyone, but simply to get as much information as possible so that he could make a fair ruling.
And he did.
Joe