ballwonder
EOG Master
Figured I wanted to get the story out so at least hopefully this will not happen again nor will it happen to anyone else.
King-D.Gen registered here in early January and last visited in early September. On 9/14/09 he contacted lines2bet and spoke with Lex while representing himself as me saying he was "Ballwonder" and provided them my first name. This idiot is also familiar that myself and Richard from BetPhoenix have a decent relationship as he used that as leverage and said that Richard referred him to lines2bet as he needed a place for his players to play. This person also went on to say they where friends with the poster "BurtRapper" from SBR. Lex is also familiar with "BurtRapper" from SBR. I am hoping that in a short period of time if he is from SBR he will be exposed as to who he really is.
The person basically informed Lex that he had players at BetOasis however they where not giving him enough back on the percentages and that he was unhappy. The person was then given a sheet for his players and last week was paid over $1500 for players that had won on that sheet. (A female who will remain nameless at this time from the Pittsburgh was sent the funds)
This week the players and the sheet took a shit and over $10,000 was lost. Today I recieved a pm from Lex at which time I contacted him and found out the details of what was going on. Lex provided me with the chat log which recorded the chat as well as the IP addy. The IP addy was run and came back to the poster King-D.Gen here at EOG. Below is a copy of the chat log.
Chat ID: 25 Chat information Full name: luke E-mail: lukeduke@XXX Date: 14 Sep 2009 6:49 PM Duration: 29m56s Staff: Lines2Bet Department: General Was Transferred?: No Transferred From:
IP Address: XXXXXX Chat Type: Customer to staff chat Conversation Lines2Bet: hello Luke, how can I help you today?
luke: hi
luke: what deposit options do u have im a mod at eog
luke: and a friend said hes had great experiance here
luke: hello
Lines2Bet: right now we are using person to person to peron via western union or moneygram
Lines2Bet: all major credit cards will be accepted soon
luke: ?/ no echeck
luke: ??
Lines2Bet: however is great dealing with western union or moneygram because that will allow you to receive next day payouts
Lines2Bet: no checks for now
luke: hun i play at 4 major books i just told u im head mod over at eog
Lines2Bet: ok
luke: wu/mg is fine but limits to low
Lines2Bet: how much would like to send?
luke: 2500
Lines2Bet: we can arrange to different receivers
Lines2Bet: ok no problem
Lines2Bet: you can send 2500 to one of our receivers
Lines2Bet: no problem
luke: nah im not sending 5 diffrent
Lines2Bet: no just one receiver sir
luke: no thnks my otherv4 a rated books all have mg and wu
Lines2Bet: our limit is $3000 per wu or mg transaction
luke: u have agents
Lines2Bet: yes
luke: u got any agents
Lines2Bet: are you an agent>
luke: yes
Lines2Bet: great
luke: big agent of of pa area
luke: what is your commision
Lines2Bet: depends of how much volume are you bringing us
luke: are u famialar with ken # The shrink Weistner
Lines2Bet: inm
Lines2Bet: im goning to have the general managaer
Lines2Bet: calling you back
luke: well id bring only 10 players at first to see how this will work
Lines2Bet: to explain yyou the commission structure
Lines2Bet: that sounds great
luke: what time
Lines2Bet: im not familiar with ken, maybe the manager is familiar with him
Lines2Bet: in about 30 minutes
Lines2Bet: he is out having lunch
Lines2Bet: what is your name nad number
luke: ill be at a meeting. My friend played with you so I did some research
Lines2Bet: name and number sorry for the typo
Lines2Bet: may who is your friend
luke: names luke
Lines2Bet: may i know
luke: well idk if he wants that info out
luke: hes a small palyer
luke: hes waiting on a payout
Lines2Bet: ok fair enough i think i know who are you talking about
luke: how do u square up with agents
Lines2Bet: let me ask you this, do you want to fund an account first or you just want to become an affilliate
luke: id rather become affiliate for now if the price is right
Lines2Bet: i rather have you speaking to the manager about that
Lines2Bet: ok
luke: me also
Lines2Bet: is there any number where he can call you?
luke: i have a sheet that i was goinmg to bring over to betjam but there commision isnt what im looking for with these guys as they are not big players
luke: i work 100% on commision no risk
Lines2Bet: ok
luke: im responsible for my guys i just need to no how u pay your agents affiliates
luke: i also can bring u alot of great plublicity over at eog for free if all goes well
Lines2Bet: do you prefer to contact the manager over the phone or via livechat
Lines2Bet: either way he will be here in about 30 mins
Lines2Bet: we pay our XXXX
luke: listen have gm email me the eog email is down right now as we are doing a matinence www.eog.com email me at cbssports@XXXXX with his number and if he could send me struture it would be appreciated also check the site www.eog.com if u would like to become a sponser i could hook u up a sweet deal I did some research and believe u are on the up and up
Lines2Bet: ok great, lets get the ball rolling
Lines2Bet: if you to call him back in 30 mins. the number is XXXXXX
Lines2Bet: sorry i just got a new keyboard
Lines2Bet: sorry for the typos
luke: ok
Lines2Bet: is it cbssports
luke: ill call when im out of meeting whats his name plz
Lines2Bet: @XXXX
Lines2Bet: Lex
luke: XXXX
Lines2Bet: ok great
luke: ok ty
Lines2Bet: the manager is back
luke: hope we can work something out
luke: if he could email me his structure ill call him back i must go to meeting
Lines2Bet: Hi Luke, my name is Lex im the GM
Lines2Bet: sorry, i was at lunch
luke: hows it going lex
Lines2Bet: Good and you?
luke: im a mod over at eog and was looking to become an affiliate
Lines2Bet: Ok, we can do that, what % are u looking for?
luke: 20% under 10k 30% over 10k
Lines2Bet: Ok, old school grading up %
Lines2Bet: we can do that
luke: yes
Lines2Bet: We pay non local agents monthly can you live with that?
Lines2Bet: We also pay on the red if the figure was positive the month week before
Lines2Bet: positive for you meaning a profit
Lines2Bet: we have 24/7 reporting
Lines2Bet: what is your handle over at the EOG?
luke: sounds good. That was my next ? if u could email me as I have a meeting everything Ill call you when im done if possible
luke: my eog email is down as we r doing matienence
luke: my eog handle is ballwonder
Lines2Bet: your ballwonder?
luke: buddy of mine played with u and i did some research and willing to give it a go
luke: yes
Lines2Bet: Ok, your an excellent poster
luke: im a mod
Lines2Bet: call me at XXXXXX ask for lex
luke: as ni was telling your rep all goes well i can bring positive feedback for your company
Lines2Bet: when your back from your meeting
luke: ok thnks
Lines2Bet: thank you
luke: take care
Lines2Bet: look forward to speaking with you, thank you
luke: like wise
Here is the 2nd live chat:
Full name:
luke
E-mail:
cbssportsXXXXX
Date:
25 Sep 2009 10:09 PM
Duration:
5m33s
Staff:
Lines2Bet
Department:
General
Was Transferred?:
No
Transferred From:
IP Address: XXXXXX
Chat Type:
Customer to staff chat
Conversation
Lines2Bet: Welcome to Lines2bet
Lines2Bet: How may I help you today?
luke: hi its ballwonder
Lines2Bet: hey buddy, how are you
luke: i was on about being an agent i called but u were not in a few times
Lines2Bet: hmmm
Lines2Bet: When did you try me?
luke: last week may of been to late as im in office alot \
Lines2Bet: ok, well im sorry I missed you
luke: anyway i was wondering if u could email me your offer so i can go over it
luke: its no problem
Lines2Bet: Ok, can I have your email please
Lines2Bet: cbssportsXXXXX
luke: cbssports@XXXXXXX
luke: yes
Lines2Bet: Is tomorrow ok with you?
luke: will u be in office tomorrow
luke: yes
Lines2Bet: yes sir, everyday
Lines2Bet: my name is Lex
Lines2Bet: General Manager
luke: ok after i get email ill contact you so we can go over everything
luke: yes
luke: i know
Lines2Bet: Sounds great, normally not here Sunday afternoons or Thursday after 4pm
Lines2Bet: FYI
luke: ok
Lines2Bet: Ok, thank you Luke we will be in touch, can I help you with anything else?
luke: thats all have a good night
Lines2Bet: you too!
luke: ty
luke: bye
So subsequently after paying the first weeks winners and the second week came is when all this came about. After they went back into the accounts it was realized that all ip's in all accounts where the same and the same person was actually placing the wagers for all 10 accounts.
The person knew some decent details which leads me to believe this is a poster from around the forums as he also knew and mentioned Burnt Rapper from SBR.
By posting this I am kind of hoping to get the word out so that it does not happen again or hopefully someone will recognize who this poster is. Maybe we will get lucky and someone from SBR will recognize this joker as well. Lex also stated he did attempt to contact me a few times but it was during the time our site was having problems. Based on the relationship with Richard and him knowing Richard as well as a few others that is why this buisness relationship was extended in the first place.
King-D.Gen registered here in early January and last visited in early September. On 9/14/09 he contacted lines2bet and spoke with Lex while representing himself as me saying he was "Ballwonder" and provided them my first name. This idiot is also familiar that myself and Richard from BetPhoenix have a decent relationship as he used that as leverage and said that Richard referred him to lines2bet as he needed a place for his players to play. This person also went on to say they where friends with the poster "BurtRapper" from SBR. Lex is also familiar with "BurtRapper" from SBR. I am hoping that in a short period of time if he is from SBR he will be exposed as to who he really is.
The person basically informed Lex that he had players at BetOasis however they where not giving him enough back on the percentages and that he was unhappy. The person was then given a sheet for his players and last week was paid over $1500 for players that had won on that sheet. (A female who will remain nameless at this time from the Pittsburgh was sent the funds)
This week the players and the sheet took a shit and over $10,000 was lost. Today I recieved a pm from Lex at which time I contacted him and found out the details of what was going on. Lex provided me with the chat log which recorded the chat as well as the IP addy. The IP addy was run and came back to the poster King-D.Gen here at EOG. Below is a copy of the chat log.
Chat ID: 25 Chat information Full name: luke E-mail: lukeduke@XXX Date: 14 Sep 2009 6:49 PM Duration: 29m56s Staff: Lines2Bet Department: General Was Transferred?: No Transferred From:
IP Address: XXXXXX Chat Type: Customer to staff chat Conversation Lines2Bet: hello Luke, how can I help you today?
luke: hi
luke: what deposit options do u have im a mod at eog
luke: and a friend said hes had great experiance here
luke: hello
Lines2Bet: right now we are using person to person to peron via western union or moneygram
Lines2Bet: all major credit cards will be accepted soon
luke: ?/ no echeck
luke: ??
Lines2Bet: however is great dealing with western union or moneygram because that will allow you to receive next day payouts
Lines2Bet: no checks for now
luke: hun i play at 4 major books i just told u im head mod over at eog
Lines2Bet: ok
luke: wu/mg is fine but limits to low
Lines2Bet: how much would like to send?
luke: 2500
Lines2Bet: we can arrange to different receivers
Lines2Bet: ok no problem
Lines2Bet: you can send 2500 to one of our receivers
Lines2Bet: no problem
luke: nah im not sending 5 diffrent
Lines2Bet: no just one receiver sir
luke: no thnks my otherv4 a rated books all have mg and wu
Lines2Bet: our limit is $3000 per wu or mg transaction
luke: u have agents
Lines2Bet: yes
luke: u got any agents
Lines2Bet: are you an agent>
luke: yes
Lines2Bet: great
luke: big agent of of pa area
luke: what is your commision
Lines2Bet: depends of how much volume are you bringing us
luke: are u famialar with ken # The shrink Weistner
Lines2Bet: inm
Lines2Bet: im goning to have the general managaer
Lines2Bet: calling you back
luke: well id bring only 10 players at first to see how this will work
Lines2Bet: to explain yyou the commission structure
Lines2Bet: that sounds great
luke: what time
Lines2Bet: im not familiar with ken, maybe the manager is familiar with him
Lines2Bet: in about 30 minutes
Lines2Bet: he is out having lunch
Lines2Bet: what is your name nad number
luke: ill be at a meeting. My friend played with you so I did some research
Lines2Bet: name and number sorry for the typo
Lines2Bet: may who is your friend
luke: names luke
Lines2Bet: may i know
luke: well idk if he wants that info out
luke: hes a small palyer
luke: hes waiting on a payout
Lines2Bet: ok fair enough i think i know who are you talking about
luke: how do u square up with agents
Lines2Bet: let me ask you this, do you want to fund an account first or you just want to become an affilliate
luke: id rather become affiliate for now if the price is right
Lines2Bet: i rather have you speaking to the manager about that
Lines2Bet: ok
luke: me also
Lines2Bet: is there any number where he can call you?
luke: i have a sheet that i was goinmg to bring over to betjam but there commision isnt what im looking for with these guys as they are not big players
luke: i work 100% on commision no risk
Lines2Bet: ok
luke: im responsible for my guys i just need to no how u pay your agents affiliates
luke: i also can bring u alot of great plublicity over at eog for free if all goes well
Lines2Bet: do you prefer to contact the manager over the phone or via livechat
Lines2Bet: either way he will be here in about 30 mins
Lines2Bet: we pay our XXXX
luke: listen have gm email me the eog email is down right now as we are doing a matinence www.eog.com email me at cbssports@XXXXX with his number and if he could send me struture it would be appreciated also check the site www.eog.com if u would like to become a sponser i could hook u up a sweet deal I did some research and believe u are on the up and up
Lines2Bet: ok great, lets get the ball rolling
Lines2Bet: if you to call him back in 30 mins. the number is XXXXXX
Lines2Bet: sorry i just got a new keyboard
Lines2Bet: sorry for the typos
luke: ok
Lines2Bet: is it cbssports
luke: ill call when im out of meeting whats his name plz
Lines2Bet: @XXXX
Lines2Bet: Lex
luke: XXXX
Lines2Bet: ok great
luke: ok ty
Lines2Bet: the manager is back
luke: hope we can work something out
luke: if he could email me his structure ill call him back i must go to meeting
Lines2Bet: Hi Luke, my name is Lex im the GM
Lines2Bet: sorry, i was at lunch
luke: hows it going lex
Lines2Bet: Good and you?
luke: im a mod over at eog and was looking to become an affiliate
Lines2Bet: Ok, we can do that, what % are u looking for?
luke: 20% under 10k 30% over 10k
Lines2Bet: Ok, old school grading up %
Lines2Bet: we can do that
luke: yes
Lines2Bet: We pay non local agents monthly can you live with that?
Lines2Bet: We also pay on the red if the figure was positive the month week before
Lines2Bet: positive for you meaning a profit
Lines2Bet: we have 24/7 reporting
Lines2Bet: what is your handle over at the EOG?
luke: sounds good. That was my next ? if u could email me as I have a meeting everything Ill call you when im done if possible
luke: my eog email is down as we r doing matienence
luke: my eog handle is ballwonder
Lines2Bet: your ballwonder?
luke: buddy of mine played with u and i did some research and willing to give it a go
luke: yes
Lines2Bet: Ok, your an excellent poster
luke: im a mod
Lines2Bet: call me at XXXXXX ask for lex
luke: as ni was telling your rep all goes well i can bring positive feedback for your company
Lines2Bet: when your back from your meeting
luke: ok thnks
Lines2Bet: thank you
luke: take care
Lines2Bet: look forward to speaking with you, thank you
luke: like wise
Here is the 2nd live chat:
Full name:
luke
E-mail:
cbssportsXXXXX
Date:
25 Sep 2009 10:09 PM
Duration:
5m33s
Staff:
Lines2Bet
Department:
General
Was Transferred?:
No
Transferred From:
IP Address: XXXXXX
Chat Type:
Customer to staff chat
Conversation
Lines2Bet: Welcome to Lines2bet
Lines2Bet: How may I help you today?
luke: hi its ballwonder
Lines2Bet: hey buddy, how are you
luke: i was on about being an agent i called but u were not in a few times
Lines2Bet: hmmm
Lines2Bet: When did you try me?
luke: last week may of been to late as im in office alot \
Lines2Bet: ok, well im sorry I missed you
luke: anyway i was wondering if u could email me your offer so i can go over it
luke: its no problem
Lines2Bet: Ok, can I have your email please
Lines2Bet: cbssportsXXXXX
luke: cbssports@XXXXXXX
luke: yes
Lines2Bet: Is tomorrow ok with you?
luke: will u be in office tomorrow
luke: yes
Lines2Bet: yes sir, everyday
Lines2Bet: my name is Lex
Lines2Bet: General Manager
luke: ok after i get email ill contact you so we can go over everything
luke: yes
luke: i know
Lines2Bet: Sounds great, normally not here Sunday afternoons or Thursday after 4pm
Lines2Bet: FYI
luke: ok
Lines2Bet: Ok, thank you Luke we will be in touch, can I help you with anything else?
luke: thats all have a good night
Lines2Bet: you too!
luke: ty
luke: bye
So subsequently after paying the first weeks winners and the second week came is when all this came about. After they went back into the accounts it was realized that all ip's in all accounts where the same and the same person was actually placing the wagers for all 10 accounts.
The person knew some decent details which leads me to believe this is a poster from around the forums as he also knew and mentioned Burnt Rapper from SBR.
By posting this I am kind of hoping to get the word out so that it does not happen again or hopefully someone will recognize who this poster is. Maybe we will get lucky and someone from SBR will recognize this joker as well. Lex also stated he did attempt to contact me a few times but it was during the time our site was having problems. Based on the relationship with Richard and him knowing Richard as well as a few others that is why this buisness relationship was extended in the first place.