MonkeyF0cker
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Of course you didn't.
Because you can't think for yourself.
You just repost shit agreeing with your confirmation bias no matter how inaccurate it is because you're brain dead.
"I had COVID, was sick for 10 days, recovered and see no reason to get the vaccine."
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Of course you didn't.
Because you can't think for yourself.
You just repost shit agreeing with your confirmation bias no matter how inaccurate it is because you're brain dead.
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1) That study is re influenza, not covid19.
2) The url refers to the CDC who have supported the use of face masks re covid19, at least for the unvaccinated, as a measure that saves lives.
3) The study itself states: "A pooled analysis of 2 studies in university residential halls reported a marginally significant protective effect of a combination of hand hygiene plus face masks worn by all residents...Most studies were underpowered because of limited sample size, and some studies also reported suboptimal adherence in the face mask group.... In theory, transmission should be reduced the most if both infected members and other contacts wear masks...as with hand hygiene, face masks might be able to reduce the transmission of other infections and therefore have value in an influenza pandemic when healthcare resources are stretched.
4) With the exception of one reference to 2018, all mask references were from 2013 and earlier. Quite out of date with more recent studies since 2020.
5) "Face masks to prevent transmission of influenza virus: a systematic review
Abstract
Influenza viruses circulate around the world every year. From time to time new strains emerge and cause global pandemics. Many national and international health agencies recommended the use of face masks during the 2009 influenza A (H1N1) pandemic. We reviewed the English-language literature on this subject to inform public health preparedness. There is some evidence to support the wearing of masks or respirators during illness to protect others, and public health emphasis on mask wearing during illness may help to reduce influenza virus transmission. There are fewer data to support the use of masks or respirators to prevent becoming infected. Further studies in controlled settings and studies of natural infections in healthcare and community settings are required to better define the effectiveness of face masks and respirators in preventing influenza virus transmission.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20092668/
MonkeyF0cker
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Did you forget what you just posted, you stupid fuck?
Hint: Your study was regarding influenza too, dipshit.
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Duh.
"Still Confused About Masks? Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus":
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/4...s-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent
MonkeyF0cker
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Yes. Studies from June of 2020 have all of the available data regarding transmission of COVID-19 and mask effectiveness.
LMAO.
You are absolutely brain dead.
MonkeyF0cker
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There's a reason that doctors and nurses were the most infected demographic on the planet.
I guess they don't know how to wear their masks.
Derp.
I guess they don't know how to wear their masks.
Derp.
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They're more recent than your posted May 2020 study. Which was not even re covid.
And you've posted absolutely nothing to refute them.
MonkeyF0cker
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They were obviously in way, way, WAY more dangerous environments than the average person.
Hookers know how to wear condoms better than anyone. Have you figured out yet why they are more likely to get herpes?
Duh.
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Wrong. Look again.
MonkeyF0cker
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There's more data available now regarding COVID-19, genius. Like Florida vs. California or even neighboring states with harsh restrictions vs. freedom like Michigan vs. Indiana or Illinois vs. Iowa/Wisconsin/Indiana.
Like I said, it's rocket science for retards.
Like I said, it's rocket science for retards.
MonkeyF0cker
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Oh, look. The study you posted still says INFLUENZA.
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Duh.
Do you have a point?
Are you ignoring the scientific studies & returning to your ignorant irrelevant nonsense that's already been addressed earlier in this thread?
MonkeyF0cker
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Because other people around infected carriers aren't in the exact same situation.
You are literally dumber than dirt.
MonkeyF0cker
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Oh. You gave empirical evidence explaing those situations?
You mean laughably erroneous propaganda graph you posted? LMAO.
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Other people are not spending lots of time in the extremely dangerous environments of ICU wards full of covid19 infected individuals, getting close to and touching the severely infected patients, moving them etc.
The vast majority of people are usually not even around anyone who is infected. And if they are it's often just a passing encounter of low risk.
MonkeyF0cker
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Yup. Everyone lives alone. And the study that Andrew Cuomo mentioned where 66% of the cases were people who were strictly sheltered in place was a total fabrication.
It's almost like the virus is airborne and COVID-19 are particles are smaller than cloth mask fabric. Couldn't be though. The leftist media wouldn't lie to you.
FairWarning
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Ironic how the CDC was for opening things up on Friday, but Gov Whitmer wasn’t. She kept telling us that it’s all about the science. Most of my accounts will not open up because they are scared to offend the mask people.
mr merlin
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Please explain why when these states ended mask mandates and opened up - full stadiums , etc, their case trends didn't change one iota? if anything after ending restrictions infections seemed to fall faster.
Masks are completely off in many areas, stadiums are full, all the bars and restaurants are open, schools are open and many do not require masks even for the kids, yet we see no discernable uptick...anywhere. Look at vegas which is getting busier and busier, it's jam packed on weekends, yet there are no surges.
The reason we dont see anything is because none of that worked, none of it mattered.
mr merlin
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Those places will relax, they're just skittish at first, all the woke co's that initially said they'd keep the masks are reversing(target,starbucks, kohls, cvs, etc). My local casino that ended masks 4-5 weeks ago, initially prob 80% still wore them(most are seniors), I went yesterday and at most 1/3rd still had the mask on.
All the trumpanzees are such whiny pussies when it comes to masks. At least they’re still being identified for storming the capital for being dumb enough to not wear one.
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“We are already seeing the emergence of variants from large outbreaks, possibly because previously infected people are being reinfected,” said Dr Smith."
Read more at https://www.todayonline.com/singapo...nd-cons-delaying-second-dose-covid-19-vaccine
Read more at https://www.todayonline.com/singapo...nd-cons-delaying-second-dose-covid-19-vaccine
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They don't.
But hopefully you got the point & stand corrected now.
Otherwise, ignorance must be bliss, eh?
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I disagree.
Why? One word: vaccinations. Ever increasing vaccination numbers.
Also ever increasing numbers of recovered infected folks with antibodies who are immune to infection works to lower the rate of infections.
So why aren't infection numbers skyrocketing downwards in, say, Texas? Because of the opening up of businesses & ending the mask mandate there. IOW riskier behaviour working as a factor towards an increase in infections.
People outdoors in stadiums. Are you not aware that being outdoors is like 20X safer re infection than being in a poorly ventilated indoors place?
mr merlin
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How come the states with better vaccination levels, above 70% with at least one shot, are not doing significantly better than those states with lower numbers, several are below 50%?
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Better re infection numbers, or hospitalizations or severe illness or deaths or what?
As i have stated repeatedly before, infection numbers vary & are a result of many different factors, such as numbers tested, population density, individual immune systems, irresponsible covidiocy numbers, mask wearing, social distancing, numbers in poorly ventilated areas, the type of virus (VOC) circulating & many other factors.
So you can't just look at one factor & draw any valid conclusions.
Why do i have to keep repeating this over & over again.
MonkeyF0cker
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Yes. Every Trump supporter was at the Capitol protest. Every Trump supporter agreed with the protest. And everyone who analyzes the COVID-19 data and concludes that masks and lockdowns caused far more harm than good MUST be a Trump supporter.
I see you're still as dumb as ever. Keep getting high off your own supply, puppet.
MonkeyF0cker
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The only ignorance on display in this thread is someone who's too braindead to be able to fact check meme graph that they got off of social media.
You'll clearly never comprehend that the virus is airborne and that if someone close to you has it, you're HIGHLY likely to get it whether you have a mask on or not.
It's rocket science for retards. As always.
MonkeyF0cker
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She must be one hell of a scientist. Pretty sweet science experiment she has going there with some of the harshest lockdowns in the past year and change and one of the worst states in the country for per capita cases and deaths. Michigan is a perfect example of the abysmal failure of the left's COVID-19 policies.
Lockdowns and masks work though. Just ask some of the retards here that have never had an original thought of their own.
mr merlin
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Throughout the pandemic states that border each other have shown almost identical trajectories even though they may have wildly divergent mitigation. You cant compare AZ with ND, or MS with MI, but you can compare MS with AL or Mn with WI. There is zero evidence, either statistical or anecdotal that masks, shutdowns, lockdowns helped.
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If that were true the VAST MAJORITY of hospital staff in covid19 wards would be getting infected, but they aren't. Busted.
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"The surgical mask blocked about 60% of .03 micron particles and over 90% of 1 micron and 2.5 micron particles."
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"in one study, researchers tested particles down to .007 microns (even smaller than viruses) and found that a simple surgical mask blocked 80%."
"... it’s downright surprising that surgical masks are just as effective [as N95 masks]! Maybe virus particles are actually easy to capture because they fly on water droplets.
https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/n95-mask-surgical-prevent-transmission-coronavirus/?rel=1
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"An evidence review of face masks against COVID-19
...We recommend that public officials and governments strongly encourage the use of widespread face masks in public...
https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118
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"Hong Kong was relatively unscathed by the first wave of the COVID-19 outbreak and had a flatter epidemic curve than most other places, which observers consider remarkable given its status as an international transport hub. Furthermore, its proximity to China and its millions of mainland visitors annually would make it vulnerable.[2] Some experts now believe the habit of wearing masks in public since the SARS epidemic of 2003 may have helped keep its confirmed infections at 845, with four deaths, by the beginning of April.[2] In a study published in April 2020 in the Lancet, the authors expressed their belief that border restrictions, quarantine and isolation, social distancing, and behavioural changes such as wearing masks likely all played a part in the containment of the disease up to the end of March.[3] Others attributed the success to critical thinking of citizens who have become accustomed to distrusting the competence and political motivations of the government, the World Health Organization, and the Chinese Communist Party.[4] "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Hong_Kong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Hong_Kong
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"...some communities in South Dakota have chosen a different path. The city of Brookings - fourth largest in the state - was the first to impose rules on masks inside businesses in September, along with other measures.
...Brookings County now has the lowest infection rate out of the five most populous South Dakota counties.
In September when the city of Brookings introduced tighter Covid restrictions, including mask-wearing measures, it had the highest.
Also, as infections rose across the state in October and November, the upturn in Brookings was lower than elsewhere.
We can't say that this was down to masks usage alone, but Bonny Specker, an epidemiologist at South Dakota State University, says along with measures such as limits on bars and restaurants, rules on face coverings have made a difference.
"South Dakota does not have a mask mandate and has one of the highest rates per capita of current hospitalisations and deaths in the country. When you compare Brookings County to other counties that have the 10 most populous cities, the data is consistent with the mask mandate being helpful."
...Governor Noem has pointed to other US states which have had mask mandates in place for some time but are still seeing cases rise.
Her spokesman, Ian Fury, has said: "Look at Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Illinois - states that have had mask mandates for months but are still seeing rapidly increasing cases."
It's true that these states have experienced an increase, but none has seen as many cases per capita throughout the pandemic as South Dakota, nor such a dramatic peak in November.
After introducing mask mandates along with other Covid restrictions, Minnesota, Illinois and Wisconsin kept cases relatively low, but they have seen a spike as infections have risen across the US since the summer.
All three states have implemented tighter restrictions throughout the pandemic than South Dakota alongside mask mandates, and their recent surges have been later and less severe.
Since the start of the outbreak, South Dakota has had more than 9,700 total cases per 100,000 people, compared with around 7,600 in Wisconsin, and 6,300 in Illinois and Minnesota.
"Studies out of the US suggest requiring masks in public can help to reduce infection rates.
A study by the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) released in late November looked at infection rates in Kansas from June to August.
In the summer, the state's governor introduced compulsory mask-wearing in public spaces but allowed local counties to opt out, and most chose to.
The study found that cases decreased in parts of Kansas which had brought in rules on wearing a mask, but cases continued to rise in those that chose not to.
It said these findings were "consistent with declines in Covid-19 cases observed in 15 states and the District of Columbia, which mandated masks, compared with states that did not have mask mandates."
Assistant professor Kate Grabowski, who reviews research papers at Johns Hopkins University, says: "All of the studies we have reviewed show that mask mandates are effective."
https://www.bbc.com/news/55216518
...Brookings County now has the lowest infection rate out of the five most populous South Dakota counties.
In September when the city of Brookings introduced tighter Covid restrictions, including mask-wearing measures, it had the highest.
Also, as infections rose across the state in October and November, the upturn in Brookings was lower than elsewhere.
We can't say that this was down to masks usage alone, but Bonny Specker, an epidemiologist at South Dakota State University, says along with measures such as limits on bars and restaurants, rules on face coverings have made a difference.
"South Dakota does not have a mask mandate and has one of the highest rates per capita of current hospitalisations and deaths in the country. When you compare Brookings County to other counties that have the 10 most populous cities, the data is consistent with the mask mandate being helpful."
...Governor Noem has pointed to other US states which have had mask mandates in place for some time but are still seeing cases rise.
Her spokesman, Ian Fury, has said: "Look at Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Illinois - states that have had mask mandates for months but are still seeing rapidly increasing cases."
It's true that these states have experienced an increase, but none has seen as many cases per capita throughout the pandemic as South Dakota, nor such a dramatic peak in November.
After introducing mask mandates along with other Covid restrictions, Minnesota, Illinois and Wisconsin kept cases relatively low, but they have seen a spike as infections have risen across the US since the summer.
All three states have implemented tighter restrictions throughout the pandemic than South Dakota alongside mask mandates, and their recent surges have been later and less severe.
Since the start of the outbreak, South Dakota has had more than 9,700 total cases per 100,000 people, compared with around 7,600 in Wisconsin, and 6,300 in Illinois and Minnesota.
"Studies out of the US suggest requiring masks in public can help to reduce infection rates.
A study by the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) released in late November looked at infection rates in Kansas from June to August.
In the summer, the state's governor introduced compulsory mask-wearing in public spaces but allowed local counties to opt out, and most chose to.
The study found that cases decreased in parts of Kansas which had brought in rules on wearing a mask, but cases continued to rise in those that chose not to.
It said these findings were "consistent with declines in Covid-19 cases observed in 15 states and the District of Columbia, which mandated masks, compared with states that did not have mask mandates."
Assistant professor Kate Grabowski, who reviews research papers at Johns Hopkins University, says: "All of the studies we have reviewed show that mask mandates are effective."
https://www.bbc.com/news/55216518
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" Masks are a key measure to suppress transmission and save lives. Masks should be used as part of a comprehensive 'Do it all! ' approach including physical distancing, avoiding crowded, closed and close-contact settings, good ventilation, cleaning hands, covering sneezes and coughs, and more."
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"It's amazing there are still a small percentage of uneducated people who in over a year still have not understood these easy to understand and easy to follow guidelines. The very "Stable Genius" few COVIDIOTS."
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"It's amazing there are still a small percentage of uneducated people who in over a year still have not understood these easy to understand and easy to follow guidelines. The very "Stable Genius" few COVIDIOTS."
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"Another Reason to Wear a Mask: COVID-19 May Cause Erectile Dysfunction":
https://www.lx.com/coronavirus/anot...ovid-19-may-cause-erectile-dysfunction/25830/
lol
https://www.lx.com/coronavirus/anot...ovid-19-may-cause-erectile-dysfunction/25830/
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"Face mask mandates slowed the spread of COVID-19 in Canada"
"... This column evaluates the impact of mask mandates on the spread of COVID-19 in Canada, using the different timings that masks were mandated across the 34 health districts of the province of Ontario. Mask mandates are associated with a 25% or larger weekly reduction in new COVID-19 cases in July and August, relative to the absence of mandates.
https://voxeu.org/article/face-mask-mandates-slowed-spread-covid-19-canada
"... This column evaluates the impact of mask mandates on the spread of COVID-19 in Canada, using the different timings that masks were mandated across the 34 health districts of the province of Ontario. Mask mandates are associated with a 25% or larger weekly reduction in new COVID-19 cases in July and August, relative to the absence of mandates.
https://voxeu.org/article/face-mask-mandates-slowed-spread-covid-19-canada
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"The Simple Science Behind Why Masks Work":
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/the-simple-science-behind-why-masks-work
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/the-simple-science-behind-why-masks-work