THE TRUTH ABOUT THE SHRINK

I was talking to a friend that I met here at EOG, that I still keep in communication with, this morning and he told me that Jman was in "meltdown mode" across the street and that he was throwing Kenny under the bus. So, I had an extra 30 mins to kill this AM so I decided to go over and read the e-drama.

I would like to take a minute here to set the record straight about my departure from EOG. First of all it had nothing to do with Ken and I having a falling out. Ken and I still talk daily and we are still the best of friends. I was done posting at EOG cuz there was nothing left in the tank. I was, and still am, done with the negativity and nonsense.

Through my years in forumville and getting to know Kenny he is one of the most giving, generous people I have ever met. This nonsense about him being greedy, etc is just plain BS. He is a business man and has a business to operate. He must make tough decisions like every other business owner does when the climate of his business changes. Only out of generosity did he keep on 20+ employees as long as he could before finally doing what made fiscal sense. In my estimation he cost himself well over $100,000 leaving dead weight hanging around here when he didnt have too. He did it because he was loyal, in my opinion, to a fault.

He has never, and I repeat never, been anything but truthful, respectful, and honorable to me, my wife, and anyone I know of that he and I associate with. Today, he is a man of integrity and a man who has earned a HUGE amount of respect in the Offshore Gaming Industry. There is NOBODY on this planet that I would rather have owe me money. No one.

Ken is not perfect and has shared with me some of his past mistakes in life. He has no regrets but does wish he would have carried himself differently in certain situations in life. The fact is none of us are angels here. We all have skeletons. Kens just get more publicity because of his stature in this community.

In closing, I consider Ken to be a true FRIEND. (And I can count all of those I have on ONE hand). I respect him and I would laugh at anyone who doesnt think Ken is a man of good character.

P.S. It was nice to see Mike not have anything negative to say about the OSU family. Mike and I always got along and I respected his abilities as a huge forum draw and inventor of new ways to keep things fun/fresh in forumville. I always thought he should be working on paying Ttinco and he knew that.

P.S.S. Just remember Mike that as you throw Ken under the bus you are running over innocent people as you do it. If you got a beef with Ken, cool. But the other people you are mentioning have done nothing that deserves for them to be included in your vendetta against Shrink. My .02
 

Tuckman

Uh Poster
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P.S. It was nice to see Mike not have anything negative to say about the OSU family.


Not saying u 2 are perfect, cuz i dont know u that well, but u surely are some good people, hope all is going well man :cheers
 

Blondie

EOG Master
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Couldn't have said it better myself OSU. 12io4j2w90

Hope all is well with you and the family
 
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OSU! Miss the education you bring to the gambling table. Hope you're getting your gambling (and whatever) gab on somewhere you're comfortable with. Good Luck! 12io4j2w90:cheers
 
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Don't we go over this a few times every 6 months?

Kenny's got plenty of faults, we all do -- one of those big ones being he cares WAYYYYYYY too much about what people think of him... Normally not a big fault, but when you work in the sports gambling industry where one losing pick can turn a crowd on you, it becomes an impossible goal to achieve.

But he is by far one of the most giving people I know. I won't get into details, but I think most that have stuck around Ken for the last few years (not those that have jumped in for a 2-3 month job then jumped ship, etc...) all say the same thing, and that's saying something.

Reality of it is, if JMan came back to Ken tomorrow and begged for a job, Ken would probably give him one.
 

ShavenCoinpurse

EOG Dedicated
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Nobody is coming out of all this crap looking good. People are just making fools of themselves over stupid internet drama.

I do give credit to Shrink through this. It seems like he is taking the high road and avoiding as best he can. Kudos Shrink.
 

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
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agree with what Travis wrote here. ken is well off financially but could have A LOT more money if he wasn't picking up the tab (and expensive ones at that) all the time

first rate person

now travis - get us pix of MRSOSU - damn it!
 
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Nobody is coming out of all this crap looking good. People are just making fools of themselves over stupid internet drama.

I do give credit to Shrink through this. It seems like he is taking the high road and avoiding as best he can. Kudos Shrink.

When I entered into a 12 Step program of recovery from alcohol and drugs, I had to do what is called a 4th step.

For those of you not familiar with what this means, I was asked to write out a "searching and fearless moral inventory" of myself...

Basically, I discovered I was extremely self-centered, selfish and dishonest my entire life without realizing to what degree. I had hurt so many people along the way without ever really caring.

When people hurt me, I would always retaliate, much like Journeyman is doing now. I didn't care about anyone but Ken, period. I was miserable.

But today, I have choices. Basically, I live happy, joyous and free but it isn't always easy....

Although I am no longer a slave to alcohol and drugs, those "character defects" sometimes get in the way and Sound of Silence nailed one to a tee..

He said that "I care WAYYYYYYY too much about what people think..."

As much as I hate to admit it, I often do...

The difference though today is that I no longer obsess about it and I have learned to deal with it...

If I fall short (which happens quite a bit), I don't dwell in self-pity as I did in the past.

I have Friends like OSU that I can call who understand and help me when the chips are down and when I fall short...

I am grateful today. I didn't know what that word really meant years ago either...

And I show it with actions, not merely words.

I appreciate the kind posts from many of you, and I hope that JMan can eventually forgive me as I do him...

THE SHRINK
 

mofome

Banned
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I was talking to a friend that I met here at EOG, that I still keep in communication with, this morning and he told me that Jman was in "meltdown mode" across the street and that he was throwing Kenny under the bus. So, I had an extra 30 mins to kill this AM so I decided to go over and read the e-drama.

I would like to take a minute here to set the record straight about my departure from EOG. First of all it had nothing to do with Ken and I having a falling out. Ken and I still talk daily and we are still the best of friends. I was done posting at EOG cuz there was nothing left in the tank. I was, and still am, done with the negativity and nonsense.

Through my years in forumville and getting to know Kenny he is one of the most giving, generous people I have ever met. This nonsense about him being greedy, etc is just plain BS. He is a business man and has a business to operate. He must make tough decisions like every other business owner does when the climate of his business changes. Only out of generosity did he keep on 20+ employees as long as he could before finally doing what made fiscal sense. In my estimation he cost himself well over $100,000 leaving dead weight hanging around here when he didnt have too. He did it because he was loyal, in my opinion, to a fault.

He has never, and I repeat never, been anything but truthful, respectful, and honorable to me, my wife, and anyone I know of that he and I associate with. Today, he is a man of integrity and a man who has earned a HUGE amount of respect in the Offshore Gaming Industry. There is NOBODY on this planet that I would rather have owe me money. No one.

Ken is not perfect and has shared with me some of his past mistakes in life. He has no regrets but does wish he would have carried himself differently in certain situations in life. The fact is none of us are angels here. We all have skeletons. Kens just get more publicity because of his stature in this community.

In closing, I consider Ken to be a true FRIEND. (And I can count all of those I have on ONE hand). I respect him and I would laugh at anyone who doesnt think Ken is a man of good character.

P.S. It was nice to see Mike not have anything negative to say about the OSU family. Mike and I always got along and I respected his abilities as a huge forum draw and inventor of new ways to keep things fun/fresh in forumville. I always thought he should be working on paying Ttinco and he knew that.

P.S.S. Just remember Mike that as you throw Ken under the bus you are running over innocent people as you do it. If you got a beef with Ken, cool. But the other people you are mentioning have done nothing that deserves for them to be included in your vendetta against Shrink. My .02


:cheers
 
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joeybagadonuts

Guest
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What makes you think he has not....frequently.

Hah! I guess based on Mike the showstiffers response the answer was no. Btw, ken, you are handling this like a gentlemen. Respect to you. Btw, jman is now saying he will contact the DOJ if you do not pay him what he claims you owe him. Ironic a stiff crying and saying he is going to rat over a debt. Only on in forumville.

Hope all is well with you, osu. We all miss you here. You were one of the few 'good ones'
 
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What makes you think he has not....frequently.


There is no way jman would have asked/begged Ken for his job back before he unleashing all that old info that was brought out several times before...NO WAY...

OSU give MRSOSU a kiss from all of us!:thumbsup
 

Timetopay

EOG Master
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Montana can I have a job? Or atleast can we be like buds to call and text.

I lonely down here in Florida.

Thanks man
 

Timetopay

EOG Master
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Shrink some of this should be cleared up

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#2 Yes he did tell me if it came down to me or Mo he would choose Mo , like a day before I was banned, because Mo was always around and I was not able to be.
#3 he also told me Mo tried for months to have me fired, but he 'would never allow that to hapen'.
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You laughed at TT getting paid?

And are you worried when J he will handle it if you dont pay? Guy seems a little off right now and I personally dont want no part of him
 

mofome

Banned
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Never, at any point, ever ever ever did I try to get anyone fired. Not journey, not anyone. Zero times. None. Not any. Never crossed my mind, never came up for even a second.

Journey was fired and then I took hours out to talk with him about things he could do to make things better if he wanted to come back. If I had just wanted him fired, I would have ignored him once he was gone. That didn't happen.
 
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This whole damn thing is pathetic. Surely some is true and some is not.

One thing that stands out(after I got tired of reading the same shit different day) over there is Jman said Ken lost his "BALLS" some where.

I wouldn't say he lost his balls, maybe that was the old Ken.

Why not put this in the dump, then ass whipes like WVU, TTP, Seymour can stir the pot.
 
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And Shrink.....there's gotta be an easier way to make money.

This shit is worse than highschool, about every 3-5 months there is some stupid shit like this.
 
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TTP is the worse. he latches on to anyone that blows the swinging dick his way.

One minute he is on the shrink, next mo, next Jman. piece of work.

Trying to be like by all, while stabbing half of them in the back
 
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I have met many here, your just another shit starter.

Your post are getting old, really quick.

Way to do the detective work for Jman, finding out why he didn't pay jman his final check.....idiot
bet how does it feel to be disliked in real life though? :cheers
 
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TTP,

I arranged for TTinco to get at least 2 payments from JMAN that he would NEVER have received had I not been involved...

My "actions" appear to be quite opposite of a man laughing at him...

I am no longer willing to participate in someone else's breakdown.

Have a great day,

THE SHRINK
 

Timetopay

EOG Master
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I have met many here, your just another shit starter.

Your post are getting old, really quick.

Way to do the detective work for Jman, finding out why he didn't pay jman his final check.....idiot


Your posts were never any good to start with. Atleast mine have dropped off:houra

Good luck finding that paid posting job you so desperately are looking for12io4j2w90
 

Timetopay

EOG Master
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I have met many here, your just another shit starter.

Your post are getting old, really quick.

Way to do the detective work for Jman, finding out why he didn't pay jman his final check.....idiot


by the way we need a would you be gay for $5,000,000 thread...:shoot:
 
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Wouldn't take a job if it was offered.....thanks though for the thoughts....now go run over to where ever and check in
Your posts were never any good to start with. Atleast mine have dropped off:houra

Good luck finding that paid posting job you so desperately are looking for12io4j2w90
 

Mammon

EOG Master
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Shrink, if I finish +600 units in mlb I want to paid next year. :shoot:
 
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Shrink there are enough...Shrink is great or Shrink is a dick threads in all of forumland.:houra

We need more How big of a douche is Big Bet?:cheers

Then I suggest you go to:

Forums and click it, then

Click on Sportsbook and Gambling Forums

Click New Thread

Put in Title and Message

Click Submit

Voila
 
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Through my years in forumville and getting to know Kenny he is one of the most giving, generous people I have ever met. This nonsense about him being greedy, etc is just plain BS. He is a business man and has a business to operate. He must make tough decisions like every other business owner does when the climate of his business changes. Only out of generosity did he keep on 20+ employees as long as he could before finally doing what made fiscal sense. In my estimation he cost himself well over $100,000 leaving dead weight hanging around here when he didnt have too. He did it because he was loyal, in my opinion, to a fault.

As part of that dead weight - I agree with these thoughts, Travis! I was even put on the payroll and taken off the payroll mid-month both times, but he still paid for the whole month on those occasions. And that's not any ASS KISSING by me - that's the TRUTH!

He has never, and I repeat never, been anything but truthful, respectful, and honorable to me, my wife, and anyone I know of that he and I associate with. Today, he is a man of integrity and a man who has earned a HUGE amount of respect in the Offshore Gaming Industry. There is NOBODY on this planet that I would rather have owe me money. No one.

Same here, Travis. Everyone jokes around about how little us moderators are paid or whatever, but he always took his payroll seriously when I was on it. There was one month when I even OWED HIM money and he still sent me my full check anyway! I can't think of a lot of people who would do that - I sure wouldn't have and that's being honest.

In closing, I consider Ken to be a true FRIEND. (And I can count all of those I have on ONE hand). I respect him and I would laugh at anyone who doesnt think Ken is a man of good character.

That really says a lot with all the people you must know, Travis! 12io4j2w90
 
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