Can we get some good gambling disucussion in here, baby

[MadCapper]

:doh1

 

[Tuckman]

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this thread will help

 

[Hennessey]

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Sorry. I used to try to learn to cap games but didn't get much help so i gave up. Now i just give some money away and talk shit with some cool people.

 

[rjt721]

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We need more Lincecum threads.

 

[ATX]

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good post.

Sorry. I used to try to learn to cap games but didn't get much help so i gave up. Now i just give some money away and talk shit with some cool people.

true.

things were different 10 years ago.

learned a lot of stuff I still use now.

no think tank or technically peep forum?

bad call, Shrink.

economy is dry, lines are tightening up.

the flock needs a forum to try to beat the man.

I don't post much outside the sports forums, but I will say that I like what I've seen of the crowd here.

 

[PassTheRock]

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I can slow my roll with the chica pics

 

[cheapseats]

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good post.



true.

things were different 10 years ago.

learned a lot of stuff I still use now.

no think tank or technically peep forum?

bad call, Shrink.

economy is dry, lines are tightening up.

the flock needs a forum to try to beat the man.

I don't post much outside the sports forums, but I will say that I like what I've seen of the crowd here.

You're one of the better in the NBA Forum ATX, glad your stinking around as I have gained insight with the post you ramble on with....91023i2ndw;l

 

[The Prophet]

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Did you happen to catch game one replay of the 1988 World Series on Fox Sports West the other night?

Gibson?s 9th inning two-out dinger off Eckersley?

Mark McGwire and Jose Canseco?

Canseco denying allegations of steroid use?1988!

Joe Garagiola and Vin Scully in the broadcast booth?

Care to share your thoughts?


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[joeybagadonuts]

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good post.



true.

things were different 10 years ago.

learned a lot of stuff I still use now.

no think tank or technically peep forum?

bad call, Shrink.

economy is dry, lines are tightening up.

the flock needs a forum to try to beat the man.

I don't post much outside the sports forums, but I will say that I like what I've seen of the crowd here.

Anyone who doesn't know ATX should listen to him. I'd say over the years he has taught me more about money management than I could ever have dreamed of learning. Very sound technical bettor.

I remember when I first started trailing you at either RX, or peeps, and I saw you'd playing big dog MLs for 1/4 Unit, I thought you were crazy, then as I matured as a gambler, I realized that betting between .25 units and maybe 3 units is the best way to be able to avoid huge swings in winning and losing. I've been able to gamble for YEARS on one deposit I made about 4 years ago. Mind you, I've taken some winnings out of the book I started with and spread it around, but I haven't had to "reload" any new funds in a long, long time. I'm not a great gambler or a "sharp",but anyone that line shops, does a little scalping and middling, can show a small profit long term and not piss away $. Too many people here take a huge position on a play and if it loses, it takes too many wins on smaller plays to ever make up for it...

Anyways, just keep in mind that there are many winning gamblers on this site, and MANY MANY MANY more that claim to win. Just keep in mind, the guying yelling about how good he is, probably isn't that good....

 

[benny0420]

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I can slow my roll with the chica pics

You are the funniest poster ever. I cry laughing so hard everytime you change your avatar.:+textinb3

 

[mofome]

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What do you want people to talk about all day? More who stiffed who? unclear as to why you would post this now. Maybe im not unclear.

 

[mofome]

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Most of the posts on the forum are sports related. The actual sports forums are more active than they had been 2 months back. No talks of stiffing everywhere you look. No bashing threads. No 'lists' about who was the best poster to ever give head to a moose.

 

[ATX]

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You're one of the better in the NBA Forum ATX, glad your stinking around as I have gained insight with the post you ramble on with....91023i2ndw;l

if you can make sense of half the shit I write you are way smarter than I am. at one point this year I cared less about being up or down but more about somehow winning with the Clippers. I've got quite a few angles, no time to database them. I'm not sure if a db would be optimal since I firmly believe if it ain't broke don't fix it, but people come up with stuff all the time that usually doesn't work because they don't know what to do with it...

 

[Mr. Sanderson]

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Most of the posts on the forum are sports related. The actual sports forums are more active than they had been 2 months back. No talks of stiffing everywhere you look. No bashing threads. No 'lists' about who was the best poster to ever give head to a moose.[/quote]

How many posters have actually done this?

 

[Simplythebest]

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What do you want people to talk about all day? More who stiffed who? unclear as to why you would post this now. Maybe im not unclear.

Maybe a "how to handicap a baseball game" thread or two. Or "why is 3 and 7 so important when it comes to football". I could go on forever. But with that said, all I've had the energy to do as of late is bury the stiffing 1star so I can't speak much. Don't know how bases has taken up so much of my time already. Guess I should be more grateful that I'm working and that my hobby is just that.

 

[mofome]

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Maybe a "how to handicap a baseball game" thread or two. Or "why is 3 and 7 so important when it comes to football". I could go on forever. But with that said, all I've had the energy to do as of late is bury the stiffing 1star so I can't speak much. Don't know how bases has taken up so much of my time already. Guess I should be more grateful that I'm working and that my hobby is just that.

This is a process. Moving the stiffs out, working with some new people on the team, working with some books on some big contests for baseball and march madness.

We are trying to keep the capping in the main forum but without picks in the main forum and as many game discussions, the main forum has less sports and the ncaab board has more.

the 3s and the 7s are done for a while so its harder to get football talk going.

We should get some more baseball stuff going and some insight on how to capping the conference tourneys. That would be something I would enjoy.

 

[Hennessey]

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Most of the posts on the forum are sports related. The actual sports forums are more active than they had been 2 months back. No talks of stiffing everywhere you look. No bashing threads. No 'lists' about who was the best poster to ever give head to a moose.[/quote]

How many posters have actually done this?

We're gonna find out

 

[MadCapper]

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This is a process. Moving the stiffs out, working with some new people on the team, working with some books on some big contests for baseball and march madness.

We are trying to keep the capping in the main forum but without picks in the main forum and as many game discussions, the main forum has less sports and the ncaab board has more.

the 3s and the 7s are done for a while so its harder to get football talk going.

We should get some more baseball stuff going and some insight on how to capping the conference tourneys. That would be something I would enjoy.

:cheers

Good stuff on the way, baby!!

 

[inBaldweTrust]

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Mo will you be doing the March Madness contest at BetJam that was done 2 years ago I believe.

 

[The Prophet]

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Got no problem chatting sports, gambling however is another matter, what?s there to talk about?don?t guess or gamble and expect to win long-term.

FWIW: There is a plethora of information documented throughout the forum which can be obtained utilizing the search function not to mention the other folders upon the site.

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[ATX]

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...saw you'd playing big dog MLs for 1/4 Unit, I thought you were crazy

yeah, me too. Thanks for the props, by the way. I figured a lot of those money managment ideas would put someone fairly close to zero risk of ruin while allowing for nice annual ROI. I remember you from the RR, that place was nice because a poster would have 5-10 industry players busting their balls, a trial by fire, but a lot of stuff stuck. I haven't really learned anything new since then. Simply repeat what works however boring it gets.

This place needs a technical discussion forum. SBR's is not 'it'.

 

[ATX]

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Maybe a "how to handicap a baseball game" thread or two. Or "why is 3 and 7 so important when it comes to football".

1. WHIP+ SP +125 road or greater
vs home/away vs previous meetings is more than 80% of it.

2. the 3 and 7 are vastly overrated in football, especially in the colleges outside the SEC. a number crossing the 3 and 7 is far more significant.

 

[MadCapper]

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Mo,

can you change title to "Can we get some good gambling disucussion in here, baby?!"


ATX,

Thats what I'm talking bout man!!!

Thanx!

 

[mofome]

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Mo will you be doing the March Madness contest at BetJam that was done 2 years ago I believe.

We hope to have more than one march madness contest.

:cheers

 

[mofome]

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1. WHIP+ SP +125 road or greater
vs home/away vs previous meetings is more than 80% of it.

help me out...

 

[MadCapper]

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id love to see first 5 inning/full game splits.

 

[mofome]

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So would I, MC. I wonder who may have something like that.

the NYM will be a completely different team this year with putz/krod in the back. Putz should be the closer.

 

[PassTheRock]

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You are the funniest poster ever. I cry laughing so hard everytime you change your avatar.:+textinb3

12io4j2w90

 

[MadCapper]

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So would I, MC. I wonder who may have something like that.

the NYM will be a completely different team this year with putz/krod in the back. Putz should be the closer.

a healthy putz is the 2nd best closer in baseball.

mets blew so many games cuz of the pen.

santana might win 25.

 

[ATX]

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help me out...

a starting pitcher with an advantage when comparing walks to hits to innings pitched over their last 3 is generally a good prospect when getting +125 or more on the road. but previous meetings and home/road stats determine some of it as well. offense is generally already accounted or over-compensated for in the line. finding a lot of value in favorites over -140 is somewhat rare.

 

[joeybagadonuts]

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yeah, me too. Thanks for the props, by the way. I figured a lot of those money managment ideas would put someone fairly close to zero risk of ruin while allowing for nice annual ROI. I remember you from the RR, that place was nice because a poster would have 5-10 industry players busting their balls, a trial by fire, but a lot of stuff stuck. I haven't really learned anything new since then. Simply repeat what works however boring it gets.

This place needs a technical discussion forum. SBR's is not 'it'.

Ahh, the good ole days of the RR...

Anyways, thanks for posting here, you are a good example of how to win at gambling. All the naysayers that claim you can't win over a long term could easily check your plays over the last few years posted here. RX, and peeps and prove themselves wrong. Like you said it can getting boring day to day, squeaking out a profit, betting a small %, but damn does it add up at the end of the year.

I also agree we need a think tank here, and have suggested it to Mo in the past, I hope to see one soon. Need guys like you, Raiders, Ganch, Pancho, BLogguy, that have the technical side of betting down for non-numbers guys like myself and others.

 

[mofome]

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a starting pitcher with an advantage when comparing walks to hits to innings pitched over their last 3 is generally a good prospect when getting +125 or more on the road. but previous meetings and home/road stats determine some of it as well. offense is generally already accounted or over-compensated for in the line. finding a lot of value in favorites over -140 is somewhat rare.

yeah i know what WHIP is, I just had trouble following your equation. So you have a SP with a better WHIP at +125, or better, on the road and you play it. No matter the difference in the pitchers WHIP? How many IPs until you can put stock in the stat, in your opinion? 50+?

 

[mofome]

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Ahh, the good ole days of the RR...

Anyways, thanks for posting here, you are a good example of how to win at gambling. All the naysayers that claim you can't win over a long term could easily check your plays over the last few years posted here. RX, and peeps and prove themselves wrong. Like you said it can getting boring day to day, squeaking out a profit, betting a small %, but damn does it add up at the end of the year.

I also agree we need a think tank here, and have suggested it to Mo in the past, I hope to see one soon. Need guys like you, Raiders, Ganch, Pancho, BLogguy, that have the technical side of betting down for non-numbers guys like myself and others.

We can add anything we want that is capping/sports related. Our staff doesn't currently have someone who could be in charge of fielding all of the technical questions, all of the data from the past and all of the math. Who can we get to really answer the questions and start topics.

 

[joeybagadonuts]

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We can add anything we want that is capping/sports related. Our staff doesn't currently have someone who could be in charge of fielding all of the technical questions, all of the data from the past and all of the math. Who can we get to really answer the questions and start topics.

Hmm, Raiders would be the best pick, imo. He knows the math side well, and also has good relations with most of the guys that don't necessarily post here.

You could even have included in the section a place where guys could throw up their excel databases for others to use...

 

[mofome]

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Who is going to offer their database? Does raiders have interest in doing that?

 

[joeybagadonuts]

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Who is going to offer their database? Does raiders have interest in doing that?

Good question. There has to be some posters that keep them for various sports. I know another forum where I might be able to get them and post them here. Some people have no problem giving them away, others want to sell them, or feel they lose "value" by giving them to other bettord who in the end are trying to beat the same lines as them. There are many much more versed in this area than me, just throwing it out there to try to help others out and improve the site.

 

[ATX]

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yeah i know what WHIP is, I just had trouble following your equation. So you have a SP with a better WHIP at +125, or better, on the road and you play it. No matter the difference in the pitchers WHIP? How many IPs until you can put stock in the stat, in your opinion? 50+?

last 3 games pitched. I don't usually get rolling too much in baseball until after the NBA playoffs, sometimes a break, so usually after 20 games or so I'm comfortable betting more than half the board, and it's less of a crapshoot after a pitcher has 3 games in the books. the +125 takes care of a lot of other team disadvantages so it's almost strong enough to play blind (4 years ago lines were looser and for sure +EV blind), but I look at a lot of other stuff that varies the wager size. the difference in WHIP is not so important b/c you have +25. Once a WHIP gets close to 1.00 or below it often becomes a bad bet b/c human performance tendencies often subject it to become <due> to regress in the next game. But some elite pitchers carry very low WHIP for a lot longer than normal. It's not just for on the road, but there are fewer +WHIP pitcher advantages at home priced similarly.

 

[mofome]

Re: Can we get some good gambling disucussion in here, baby

One thing that we're trying to do is be more organize with our ideas. We want to do this right if we are going to do this. We need a plan. We need people willing to contribute and help get it jump started.

We have people working on the poker, we need people who could excel in this aspect. There is no point to having a forum called 'think tank', or whatever we may call it, and have it be a ghost town. We need a plan of attack mr joe.

 

[mofome]

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last 3 games pitched. I don't usually get rolling too much in baseball until after the NBA playoffs, sometimes a break, so usually after 20 games or so I'm comfortable betting more than half the board, and it's less of a crapshoot after a pitcher has 3 games in the books. the +125 takes care of a lot of other team disadvantages so it's almost strong enough to play blind (4 years ago lines were looser and for sure +EV blind), but I look at a lot of other stuff that varies the wager size. the difference in WHIP is not so important b/c you have +25. Once a WHIP gets close to 1.00 or below it often becomes a bad bet b/c human performance tendencies often subject it to become <due> to regress in the next game. But some elite pitchers carry very low WHIP for a lot longer than normal. It's not just for on the road, but there are fewer +WHIP pitcher advantages at home priced similarly.

So you only use a SPs last 3 games. Say pitcher A has a WHIP of 1.33 in his last 3 starts and all were in cinci. Pitcher B has a WHIP of 1.29 and all 3 of his starts were in SD. Those WHIP numbers, imo, would favor that pitcher who has posted those solid numbers in Cinci over the slightly lower WHIP in SD. Does that matter at all or is this just something to be followed without regard to where the pitcher has pitcher.


Then you could look at a SP with a WHIP of 1.37 who just faced, Boston and the Yanks twice in his last 3 starts. Another pitcher has a WHIP of 1.26 in his last 3 starts but they were all in Oak and 2 were against seattle. the pitcher with the 1.37 has been the better pitcher so far as that start is concerned, no?

</due>

 

[joeybagadonuts]

Re: Can we get some good gambling disucussion in here, baby

One thing that we're trying to do is be more organize with our ideas. We want to do this right if we are going to do this. We need a plan. We need people willing to contribute and help get it jump started.

We have people working on the poker, we need people who could excel in this aspect. There is no point to having a forum called 'think tank', or whatever we may call it, and have it be a ghost town. We need a plan of attack mr joe.

Ok, lemme see if I can help find someone. I got a few guys in mind.