Journeyman
EOG Master
........................and OVER IT WILL GO! :devil::devil::devil:
8-6 final
8-6 final
yikes!
what are these boys doing? i believe we had a big unders ump out there tonight.
Showstopper, you take care of this one, ok?
Showstopper, you take care of this one, ok?
Nothing I can do. did you play it?
take care of what?
:+clueless
Jman, what do you think of Mo's statement that the umpire is an UNDer umpire that resulted in this 0-0?
are you having some drinks tonight?
:cocktail
Hopefully LAA will at least win
Are you glad Manny's gone Tom?
I tried to use Ump trends in 2005, midway thru the yr and it just wasn't working out, so I stopped ....plus what i found was an ump would be an under ump one yr and not the next, I personally didn't like it...
Now there are a few I am well aware of , John Hirschbeck for example was probably the one ump I would skip an over play if he was behind the plate.
The time Alomar spit in his face after getting rung up, lol that ball was 16 inches off the plate!
No. Will you let Jman answer and stop interrupting?
I was watching that game, I watched every inning still back then...yeah Robbie was out of line but that ball was WAY outside, and then Alomar claimed he called him a f ag.
Kaiser! LOL He was our biggest enemy, he absolutely hated Eddie Murray and Earl Weaver, it got so bad the league kept Kaiser from umping Orioles games...I remember him throwing Eddie out in the first inning once for staring at him....they had argued the night before, Murray was ejected then too.
those were the days.
whats wrong with you.
:hangt
Another funny thing about Kaiser, he acted like he didnt even want to be there, with his expressionless calls, barely raising his arm etc. He was finally ran off when the umps when on strike that yr....
Kinda funny thinking back, the umps seemed to have a lot more power back then, now with the leagues interchangeable, they don't seem to have the same affect.
I can remember almost being afraid for Weaver, Kaiser looked like he was ready to eat Earl ...he was intimidating, the place use to go nuts when Earl left the dugout, it was a part of the experience of being there.
Billy Martin was another great one.
I wonder if Kaiser is still alive? He was actually much younger than he looked, but well over 300 lbs, former wrestler too....I was at a game way back when, when Big John Stud was sitting in the seats, he was friends with Kaiser from their wrestling days...at some point Stud went out onto the field between innings and he did a mock arguement with the Orioles Bird.
F ing Kaiser, he was something else....as was Ron Luciano, another Weaver nemesis.
I remember Ron luciano and Weaver had big feuds. This was well publicized at the time. I remember at a game in Fenway that a guy was yelling at luciano and in the middle of an inning Luciano would give him the OK signal with his hand in a mock gesture. Funny as heck but never seen a MLB ump in the middle of an inning respond to a fan.
It has all changed. The managers do not want to argue as much and the umps are not as controversial. I have to believe the umps (union or whatever) told them to not be so challenging. For a while they were way out of hand. The managers too. There are no Weaver's or martins any more.
I knew Kaiser was a former wrestler as one time Jim Rice went to the mound after being hit (I think Dave Stieb hit him) and he flung people away who tried to stop him but kaiser grabbed Rice and almost knocked him down. Kaiser was very big but out of shape. You are right, he did not seem to really like his work and that showed. Boy he was so confrontational and it was not right. He acted like it was personal every time. It was about the game not fighting kaiser you fat bastard. kaiser in 1990's was voted the worst ump by the players in spring training. A trouble maker and a lousy ump is not a good combo. Earl Weaver could really manage. I love watching him poke his cap into the umps face.
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you ever see this Tom?
classic stuff...looks like about 1979, I could possibly find the exact game if I looked, Flanagan started....note that is a 1st inning ejection!
that crew gave us fits.
No wasn't Palermo, Palermo was another one Weaver really battled, they had a classic arguement one night in Chicago where they started pointing index fingers at one another making contact with them. LOL!
That was Tom Haller, he was around a long time too.
Steve Palermo was a great ump IMO.
Remember Cosell sending Weaver off on ABC that Sunday (his last game before coming back in 1985) after the loss to Milwaukee on the final day of the season, losing to Mil by one game!
I was at the 4 game series, to this day the best series I was ever at, I was always there back then....that was a very sad ending to an amazing month.
I saw the tape many times later on....and can still hear Cosell saying "Good Bye Earl, you will be missed" chilling memories.