Flag Lapel Stupidity .... this is great !!!

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
16 May 2008

Because Nothing Expresses Patriotism Quite Like A Three Dollar Stars And Stripes Enamel Flag Pin, Mass-Produced For Walmart In A Beijing Sweatshop



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I am one of those whiny elitists who is sick to death of hearing about whether Barack Obama is wearing a flag pin in his lapel today, and what bearing this might have on his patriotism.


The straw that broke the camel's back for me was last month's ABC Democratic candidates' debate, in which moderators Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos devoted the entire first half of the debate to insubstantial issues, prominent among them the manufactured controversy over Obama's flag pin or lack thereof.


I left that debate depressingly resigned to the fact that only in America could candidates for the Presidency - a post that involves crucial decisions of war and peace, health care, education and fiscal policy, etc... etc... - have their suitability for office judged on the basis of something as superficial as whether or not they wear a lapel pin.


But I was wrong.


Last night, I was surfing through a Hamas-affiliated Web forum (as one does when one blogs on Israel-Palestine), when I was comforted and at the same time appalled to learn it's not just us. Obviously, on a Hamas forum it's not unexpected to see PA/Fatah leaders pilloried as "traitors to the cause", but I was little surprised to learn that for some Hamas supporters the ultimate proof of Mahmoud Abbas' treachery is ......



... he doesn't wear a flag pin in his lapel!
Isn't that funny?


So I guess it's not just Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos who think the key test of Presidential material is whether Obama wears a flag pin. There's actually someone else in the world who thinks just like them. And it's Hamas! How about that

:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
 

scrimmage

What you contemplate you imitate
Re: Flag Lapel Stupidity .... this is great !!!

Here's Democratic nominee Barack Obama pandering to the Israeli lobby at the AIPAC conference,and demonstrating where his loyalty lies:

WOOS JEWS
ISRAEL FLAG ON LAPEL, HE HAILS JERUSALEM

By ANDY SOLTIS, Post Wire Services

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BARACK STAR OF DAVID: Barack Obama sports a US/Israel flag pin in DC yesterday after addressing a pro-Israel group and saying, "Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided."

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Obama: I'm An Ally To Israel


Presumptive nominee Barack Obama tries to woo Jewish voters with speech.​

June 5, 2008 -- Barack Obama, wearing a pin bearing the Israeli and American flags, kicked off his general election campaign yesterday with an impassioned appeal for Jewish votes that promised Jerusalem must remain the undivided capital of Israel.

His declaration - which immediately outraged the Palestinians - goes beyond longstanding neutral American policy, which holds that the future of Jerusalem must be agreed upon in negotiations.

Obama, in a major address the day after he clinched the Democratic nomination, told the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, "The Palestinians need a state that is contiguous and cohesive, and that allows them to prosper.
"But any agreement with the Palestinian people must preserve Israel's identity as a Jewish state, with secure, recognized and defensible borders," he added.

"Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided."
Mahmoud Abbas, the US-backed Palestinian president who is currently trying to negotiate the future of Jerusalem, expressed outrage at Obama's stance.
"This statement is totally rejected," he said.

Chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat told al-Jazeera that Obama "was giving ammunition to extremists across the region."
The United States has long called for the creation of a Palestinian state, whose capital would be determined in negotiations with Israel.

The Palestinian Authority has claimed all of Jerusalem. But in negotiations it demanded instead that east Jerusalem, captured by Israel in the 1967 Six-Day War, be returned to them so it can be their capital.

The Israelis tentatively accepted that divided capitals idea as far back as the Camp David negotiations led by President Bill Clinton in 2000, and repeated their willingness when peace talks revived last year, according to diplomatic reports.

Obama took pains yesterday to reassure his audience, a powerful lobbying group known as AIPAC, that he wouldn't pressure Israel into dangerous concessions.
"Let me be clear. Israel's security is sacrosanct. It is nonnegotiable," the Illinois senator said.

Obama, who has been criticized for sometimes not wearing an American-flag pin, wore a pin of both Old Glory and the Star of David on his lapel. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who also addressed the Washington convention, did not.
The future of Jerusalem as Israel's capital has always been a "motherhood" issue for US presidential candidates seeking Jewish votes.

When Bill Clinton ran for president in 1992, he promised to move the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
But he repeatedly rejected the move after he was elected. When Clinton spoke, as president, to AIPAC in 1995, he avoided mention of Jerusalem's future.

Obama is considered vulnerable to Republican inroads among traditionally Democratic Jewish voters, who could make the difference in battleground states like Florida.

Yesterday, he sounded as militant as Israeli hard-liners on issues besides Jerusalem, such as promising $30 billion in military aid to the Jewish state.
"I will do everything in my power to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon - everything," he said to a standing ovation from the crowd of 7,000.
Meanwhile, al Qaeda's second-in-command urged Palestinians to increase suicide and rocket attacks on Israel in order to end its blockade of the Gaza Strip.

"Step up your martyrdom-seeking operations, and increase your missiles and ambushes, as there is no solution but this," Ayman al-Zawahri said in an Internet recording.
source:
OYBAMA! 'PIN'UP DEM WOOS JEWS - New York Post
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Flag Lapel Stupidity .... this is great !!!

Between Israel and Iraq ....

the financial pond is getting drained
 

scrimmage

What you contemplate you imitate
Re: Flag Lapel Stupidity .... this is great !!!

Between Israel and Iraq ....

the financial pond is getting drained

Anti what does that obscure statement mean?
Could you address the Obama suddenly sporting an Israeli/American flag pin in the /duringaftermath of the AIPAC conference speech he gave issue .Who does Obama ultimately work for?
 

ArchieBunker

EOG Dedicated
Re: Flag Lapel Stupidity .... this is great !!!

He hates jews. Look at all the posts he makes with Nazi pictures in them.
 

scrimmage

What you contemplate you imitate
Re: Flag Lapel Stupidity .... this is great !!!

Between Israel and Iraq ....

the financial pond is getting drained

Anti,
Care to elaborate on Obama catering to the Israeli lobby at the AIPAC conference,or does this subject not agree with and disturb your hero worship ,and objective view of the candidate Obama.
You know what a sheep is
or are Obama supporters cowed?:
definition: cowed




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Cow \Cow\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Cowed (koud);; p. pr. & vb. n. Cowing.] [Cf. Icel. kuga, Sw. kufva to check, subdue, Dan. kue. Cf. Cuff, v. t.] To depress with fear; to daunt the spirits or courage of; to overawe. To vanquish a people already cowed. --Shak. THe French king was cowed.

--J. R. Green.
Or keeping with the theme don't be fooled remember this quote from

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PIGS AT THE TROUGH
In ANIMAL FARM the pigs were the leaders, just as in OUR world the leaders are pigs. Politicians, bureaucrats, and other so-called "public servants" always justify their perks and pay-cheques by claiming to be doing "important" work "for the people". See if you recognize them in the following excerpt: ~ Jackie Jura
Animal Farm, by George Orwell
Chapter III:
"The mystery of where the milk went to was soon cleared up. It was mixed every day into the pigs' mash. The early apples were now ripening, and the grass of the orchard was littered with windfalls. The animals had assumed as a matter of course that these would be shared out equally; one day, however, the order went forth that all the windfalls were to be collected and brought to the harness-room for the use of the pigs. At this some of the other animals murmered, but it was no use. All the pigs were in full agreement on this point, even Snowball and Napoleon. Squealer was sent to make the necessary explanations to the others.
 

Thor4140

EOG Dedicated
Re: Flag Lapel Stupidity .... this is great !!!

Cmon scrimmage you know why he did that. If he didn't he will get slimed relentlessly. Do i agree with him? Absolutely not but what can he doo? He wants to win and the other side will trash him to no end. Its actually kinda sickening if you ask me. Maybe if he gets in and does a good job for 4 years he tells them to go fuk off.
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Flag Lapel Stupidity .... this is great !!!

Scrimmage:

Dont look at me ... do I agree with everything Obama says or does?

Israel can handle their own problems as they have 250 nukes ....

I was a Ron Paul fan early on until I saw the reality that the Right
run Media was gonna make sure his run was short

Bring home the troops ....

Wish Israel the best as we have enough of our own problems here
on the homefront via the 4th Reich reign
 

scrimmage

What you contemplate you imitate
Re: Flag Lapel Stupidity .... this is great !!!


Obama?s campaign was not in any genuine sense an ?antiwar? campaign, although he appealed to popular hostility to the war in Iraq and constantly linked Clinton and Bush with his refrain that Iraq was ?a war that should never have been authorized and never been waged.?

The Illinois senator represents a section of the American ruling elite that has concluded that the invasion and conquest of Iraq was a strategic debacle and that a significant change in posture and personnel is required to salvage the interests of American imperialism in the Middle East and internationally. These layers do not oppose military action as such, but regard the Bush administration?s single-minded focus on winning a military victory in Iraq as unwise and ultimately disastrous.

Long before Obama became a household name, filling stadiums and attracting small contributions by the millions over the Internet, his candidacy had attracted the support of a significant section of the Democratic foreign policy establishment, including figures like former Carter national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski and former Clinton national security adviser Anthony Lake.

They were drawn to Obama not so much by his critique of the Bush administration?which was not particularly vigorous, even by the toothless standards of the congressional Democrats?as by the symbolic effect that the election of the first African-American president would have in terms of reviving illusions, both internationally and within the United States, in the democratic pretensions of American capitalism.

With Obama?s nomination effectively secured, the American media has now gone into overdrive to peddle such illusions. The television networks have devoted endless hours to glorifying the great achievement of American democracy in nominating an African-American to lead the presidential ticket of one of the two major bourgeois parties for the first time in US history.

There is no doubt that such illusions are currently widespread, and not only among minority workers and young people of all racial backgrounds, who are genuinely appalled by the outgoing Bush-Cheney administration?s eight-year record of war, reaction and social decay.

Obama is a fervent defender of the profit system and has the backing of some of the wealthiest individuals?including billionaire investor Warren Buffett, who this year became the single richest man in America, surpassing Bill Gates of Microsoft.

Like Senator Obama, Mr. Buffett is an intelligent man, and he is not backing the Illinois Democrat because he seeks a radical transformation in American society. He supports Obama because he recognizes, as do the more thoughtful sections of the ruling elite, that at least a significant cosmetic change is required in American political life to forestall an upheaval from below.

The Obama nomination is not the product of a popular insurgency against the Democratic Party establishment or of a mass movement from below, as some of Obama?s more self-deluded supporters on the liberal left now proclaim. The role of the masses in the Obama campaign is best demonstrated by the rallies like that held Tuesday night[6/3/2008] in St. Paul, Minnesota?the people serve as extras in a well-developed, highly skillful marketing campaign. The purpose of this campaign is to refurbish American capitalist politics without touching its rotten foundations.

Obama is a willing and, to a relatively high degree, conscious instrument of this campaign. This was clearly demonstrated in both the circumstances?starting with the flag pin on his lapel, once the subject of media attention?and the content of his speech Tuesday night declaring himself the victor in the struggle for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Obama attacked his presumptive Republican opponent, Senator John McCain, over his ?stay-the-course? policy in Iraq, but he couched his critique of the war in nationalistic terms. The Bush-McCain policy, he said, ?asks everything of our brave men and women in uniform and nothing of Iraqi politicians,? as though it was Iraq exploiting the United States, and not the reverse. He cited the cost of the war for the American people, but not the far greater cost inflicted upon the Iraqi population by the American invasion and occupation, which has virtually destroyed Iraq as a functioning society.

At the same time, the Democratic candidate further parsed his supposed commitment to bring an end to the war, declaring?in implicit rejection of any rapid pullout of troops? ?I won?t stand here and pretend that there are many good options left in Iraq.? He added, ?We must be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in, but start leaving we must.? At some points in the campaign, Obama has suggested that all US combat troops would be pulled out in his first year in the White House. This has been whittled down to a vague pledge to ?start leaving,? a formulation that opens the door to an occupation of essentially indefinite duration.

Any US troops pulled out of Iraq would be available for military operations in other parts of the world, he made clear, particularly in Afghanistan, where he said, ?It?s time to refocus our efforts.?

Obama continued this emphasis on revived and renewed American militarism in his speech Wednesday morning to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), the principal pro-Israel lobby in Washington. He declared that he would never negotiate with Hamas and other Islamic and nationalist groups that refuse to recognize the state of Israel.

?There is no room at the negotiating table for terrorist organizations,? he said, adding, ?Contrary to the claims of some, I have no interest in sitting down with our adversaries just for the sake of talking.?

He criticized the Bush administration and Senator McCain on the grounds that the war in Iraq had strengthened Iran, the most formidable opponent of Israel in the Middle East. While repeating his support for diplomatic engagement with Iran, he said, ?I will always keep the threat of military action on the table to defend our security and our ally Israel.?

Press reports indicated that the 7,000 people attending the AIPAC conference gave Obama a far warmer reception than McCain, who addressed the same gathering two days earlier. Obama prostrated himself before the Zionist lobby, saying, ?Israel?s security is sacrosanct. It is non-negotiable.?

Any Mideast peace agreement, he said, must ?preserve Israel?s identity as a Jewish state, with secure, recognized and defensible borders. Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided.?

As for Iran, the Toronto Globe & Mail correspondent at the AIPAC meeting commented, ?Sen. Obama seemed almost as hawkish as Sen. McCain or current President George W. Bush.?

Obama told AIPAC, ?The danger from Iran is grave, it is real, and my goal will be to eliminate this threat.? He added, in language that was vague but undeniably ominous, ?I will do everything in my power?everything, everything?to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.?

An Obama presidency would not represent a fundamental break with the politics of American imperialism, but rather its continuation in a new form. The first black president will prove as determined to uphold the interests of the US ruling elite as the first black secretary of state, Colin Powell, and his successor Condoleezza Rice, who is also African-American.

It is not skin color, but class position, which is the decisive political criterion. It is necessary to reiterate this fundamental Marxist truth under conditions in which all manner of left liberals will seek to reinforce illusions in Obama and, through him, in the Democratic Party and the profit system as a whole.

The truth is that the Democratic Party and the Republican Party are both instruments of the American ruling elite, whose differences are tactical rather than fundamental.

Driving an Obama administration will be the ongoing and ever-deepening crisis of American and world capitalism, and the efforts of the US ruling elite to defend its world position and its dominance at home by every possible means?from the honeyed words of the Democratic presidential candidate to police-state spying and war.
 
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