Online betting whiffs in Nevada:Study says 96 percent of residents don't play

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Online betting whiffs in Nevada

Study says 96 percent of residents don't play


Nevadans aren't really interested in online gambling. At least, that's what more than 96 percent of people told questioners in a study conducted for gaming regulators by UNLV's International Gaming Institute.

But those Nevadans who do gamble over the Internet -- 3.7 percent according to the sample of 1,000 residents surveyed -- mostly play poker or wager on sports, are predominately male, and are not completely comfortable with the integrity of online gaming.

Meanwhile, those who do gamble online said the activity does not affect their gambling habits inside Nevada casinos.

The Gaming Control Board asked the institute in 2006 to study whether or not Nevadans are gambling on the Internet and to investigate their habits and attitude toward the activity.

Institute director Bo Bernhard said respondents were surveyed in January 2007. Follow-up in-depth interviews were conducted throughout the year with 27 of the respondents, including 18 active online gamblers. Bernhard said all the participants were assured confidentiality because of concerns over the legality of the activity.

The interviews helped researchers probe deeper into the attitudes and activities of online gamblers. However, the arrests of several high-profile online gambling executives, anti-Internet gambling activity in Washington, D.C., and the shutdown of some online gambling sites took place during 2007 while the research was being conducted.

"It became clear that events contemporaneous with our work may have chilling effects on the patterns of online play," Bernhard said. "This research was conducted during an interesting point in time."

Control Board Chairman Dennis Neilander said the panel wanted a better understanding of the online gaming activities of Nevada residents. Several technology companies and other parties have expressed interest over the years in potentially setting up online gambling sites in Nevada that would cater only to Nevada residents. The concept would require action by the Nevada Legislature.

Neilander and fellow board members questioned if Nevadans were in fact gambling on the Internet.

"Anecdotally, we were told the activity was going on," Neilander said. "That led to a policy question; if this is something that is going on, isn't this something we ought to regulate and tax? We felt you really can't make decisions with appropriate research."

Neilander said it is not illegal to gamble on the Internet, but it is a violation of federal law to operate a gambling site that accepts wagers from Americans.

On Friday, the Institute presented its findings to a special joint meeting of the Gaming Control Board and Nevada Gaming Commission, which would write any policy regarding Internet gaming by Nevada residents.

Bernhard, who oversaw the yearlong study with assistant director Tony Lucas, cautioned regulators that respondents are not always forthcoming when being questioned about what he termed "deviant behavior."

The number of Nevadans gambling online may actually be higher because respondents could have been reluctant to admit to a questionably legal activity.

Nevertheless, the number of Nevada respondents saying they had gambled online was statistically similar to the number of national respondents who participated in a 2006 online gaming survey conducted by the Washington, D.C.-based American Gaming Association.

Bernhard, who had to answer questions after the formal presentation from his father, Gaming Commission Chairman Peter Bernhard, said the qualitative research provided substantive information. Most of the online gamblers, he said, like the activity's low cost. Others use online gambling as a way to teach themselves about different games of chance.

The survey also found that nearly nine out of 10 Nevadans who had not gambled online said they were "not at all likely" to participate in online gambling if the state licensed and regulated the activity.

Current online gamblers, Bo Bernhard said, had strong concerns about the legal status and the unregulated nature of the activity and would have more of a comfort level if Nevada regulated online gambling.

"It's ironic that they think it's illegal, yet they still participate in the activity anyway," Gaming Commissioner Ray Rawson said.

Control Board member Mark Clayton said that because the study's findings showed such a small number of gamblers wagering online, he didn't believe Nevada casino operators would undertake the effort toward setting up Internet gaming sites within Nevada borders for Nevada residents.

Bo Bernhard said the survey had a margin of error of plus or minus 1.2 percentage points because of the large sampling.

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The Prophet

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Re: Online betting whiffs in Nevada:Study says 96 percent of residents don't play

"...not completely comfortable with the integrity of online gaming."



IMAGINE THAT :+clueless


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The General

Another Day, Another Dollar
Re: Online betting whiffs in Nevada:Study says 96 percent of residents don't play

Good read , Prop
 

ZZ CREAM

EOG Master
Re: Online betting whiffs in Nevada:Study says 96 percent of residents don't play

Maybe these Nevadans were from mars...................when I lived in Nevada , the people I knew were like 96% gamblers, smokers, drunks and good upstanding Christians.
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Online betting whiffs in Nevada:Study says 96 percent of residents don't play

you can skew a poll to say anything you want depending on who you ask the questions to....


Kinda Like going to a Billy Graham Crusade and asking the people if they believe in God :doh1
 

VegasRobert62

EOG Member
Re: Online betting whiffs in Nevada:Study says 96 percent of residents don't play

I live in Vegas, and basically gamble only online. I use the Station Casinos online sportsbook, and play poker on Full Tilt. Californians will soon make smoking in casinos illegal, so I might as well stay home and make money from the comfort of my lounge chair in front of the 65 inch tv.
 

The Prophet

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Re: Online betting whiffs in Nevada:Study says 96 percent of residents don't play

I live in Vegas, and basically gamble only online. I use the Station Casinos online sportsbook, and play poker on Full Tilt. Californians will soon make smoking in casinos illegal, so I might as well stay home and make money from the comfort of my lounge chair in front of the 65 inch tv.

WOULDN?T BEING A DRONE-PILOT SITTING IN A LOUNGE-CHAIR AT HOME IN FRONT OF THE 65? EARNING MONEY-POINTS FOR EVERY MIDDLE EASTERN SUSPECTED TERRORIST TARGET YOU TOOK OUT BE MORE PATRIOTIC THAN WATCHING A BALL-GAME?
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Re: Online betting whiffs in Nevada:Study says 96 percent of residents don't play

What is so surprising about only 4 percent playing online games for money? I would say in almost any state that would be a high number. We get caught up thinking we are like the rest of the world but we are not. Go to some general party, say something thrown by a coworker and you don't know those who attend well. If there are 50 people, probably you and maybe one other play online for money. That seems about right. About half the adults in this country don't gamble once a year, not even a lottery ticket. The other half might gamble on a lottery ticket, an office pool, maybe even make a trip or two to Vegas or wherever. Very few will go to a casino, maybe 20 percent. So ask these people who gambles online? Not many and that shouldn't surprise anyone.

What is surprising is that Dennis Neilander doesn't even know the law of Nevada! Here is it, as spelled out by Dr. Rose:
  1. Nevada -- SB 318 (codified at in NRS 465.091 to 465.094), signed into law on July 17, 1997 by Gov. Bob Miller, makes Nevada the first state to explicitly prohibit -- and allow -- gambling via the Internet.
    1. An Internet operator, anywhere in the world, who accepts a wager from a person who is physically present in Nevada commits a misdemeanor and "may be prosecuted within this state." There is no exception for licensed out-of-state operators.
    2. Anyone who makes a bet from Nevada via the Internet is committing a misdemeanor, regardless of where the person accepting the wager may be. Even before Prohibition, there have been few attempts to go after common bettors. This is the first, and so far only, law in this country which makes it a crime to make a bet on the Internet. Sen. Kyl?s bill would make it a federal crime, as well.
    3. Servers, like America Online, are also now covered, if they are aware gambling is taking place. It is a crime to "knowingly... send, transmit or relay" a wager from within Nevada to anywhere via the Internet, or from outside the state into Nevada via the Internet.
    4. Exceptions: Because this is Nevada, it should come as no surprise that the new criminal penalties do not apply to wagers accepted in the state by:
      1. Nevada-licensed race and sports books;
      2. Nevada-licensed off-track pari-mutuel betting operators; and
      3. "Any other person or establishment that is licensed to engage in wagering" in Nevada; meaning casinos. Notice it is a crime for a Nevada resident to make an out of state bet, but perfectly legal for Nevada operators to accept wagers from anywhere in the world.
 

RealSlimShady

EOG Dedicated
Re: Online betting whiffs in Nevada:Study says 96 percent of residents don't play

WildBill, maybe you can answer a question for me. Is it legal for someone in Nevada to place a bet for a friend from out of state at, say, a casino sportsbook?
 
Re: Online betting whiffs in Nevada:Study says 96 percent of residents don't play

Legal? Nope. Going to get you in trouble if you do it? Nope. But ask Billy Walters if there is a law against it. He is the only person in the state to ever be charged under this law.
 

RealSlimShady

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Re: Online betting whiffs in Nevada:Study says 96 percent of residents don't play

Thanks for your quick reply, WildBill.
 
Re: Online betting whiffs in Nevada:Study says 96 percent of residents don't play

Sorry thought you meant online Slim but reread the question. It is generally legal to make a bet for someone else because the law presumes the person making the bet controls the bet. In other words your buddy could make the bet for you, but he could also go cash the winner and not give you a dime and you have no way to make a claim on it.
 
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