I just want to throw up reading this crap!

Microsoft, Google, Yahoo to Pay $31.5 Million Over Gambling Ads

ST. LOUIS (AP) -- The three largest Internet companies have agreed to pay a combined $31.5 million to settle federal civil allegations they took ads for illegal gambling, the U.S. Attorney for eastern Missouri said Wednesday.

Microsoft Corp., Yahoo Inc. and Google Inc. also agreed to stop accepting ads for sports wagering and other online gambling, U.S. Attorney Catherine Hanaway said.

The investigation conducted by Hanaway's office, along with the IRS and the FBI, dates to 2000, she said. Negotiations have been going on for 12 to 18 months, she said.

"This is a very profitable business that had a lot of money to spend on marketing," Hanaway said of the online gambling firms advertising on the Web.

All three companies said they stopped taking the ads years ago.

"I do think it will have a major impact, Hanaway said. Obviously these are three of the largest online organizations in the world."

Microsoft's $21 million portion of the settlement includes a $4.5 million forfeit, $7.5 million to be paid to the International Center for Missing and Exploited Children and $9 million in public service ads over a three-year period starting next year.

The public service campaign will be aimed at informing users, especially those of college age and younger, that online gambling is illegal.

Microsoft said it stopped accepting ads from sites associated with online gambling nearly four years ago.

"This agreement reflects our ongoing commitment to online safety," the company said in a statement. "We're hopeful that our educational campaign will stop young people from gambling before they start."

Yahoo's $7.5 million share of the settlement includes a $3 million forfeiture and $4.5 million in public service ads over three years.

"Yahoo stopped accepting online gambling advertisements years ago, and after the U.S. Attorney's office contacted Yahoo with its concerns, we worked cooperatively over several years to reach this settlement," spokeswoman Kelley Benander said in a statement.

Google is to pay $3 million, less than half its average daily profit of $11 million. Spokesman Jon Murchinson said the ads appeared in sponsored links at Google.com and other Web sites that that belong to its ad network.

"While we did not admit any wrongdoing, the Department of Justice has advised that online gambling is illegal in the United States and ads to promote it are improper," Murchinson said in a statement. "Google voluntarily discontinued running such ads, which were a very small part of our AdWords business, in April 2004."

The U.S. Attorney's office here has led in the effort to halt illegal Web-based gambling, a roughly $6 billion a year industry in the U.S. that violates the Federal Wire Wager Act among other federal laws.

Earlier this year, the London-based Internet gambling firm BetOnSports PLC pleaded guilty in St. Louis to federal racketeering charges. Cases are still pending against company executives. Hanaway's office also settled a civil case against BetOnSports in November 2006. That settlement prohibits the company from accepting any bets from gamblers in the U.S.

The investigations of Microsoft, Yahoo and Google were unrelated to the BetOnSports case, authorities said.

The U.S. Attorney's office in St. Louis has previously prosecuted and settled with other companies over Web-based gambling and gambling ads -- agreements that generated more than $40 million in forfeitures and back taxes.

"I do think the prosecution from this office has had a chilling affect on online gambling," Hanaway said.
 

Journeyman

EOG Master
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Re: Just When I Thought Things Couldn't Get Worse!!!

I wonder if they will go after radio stations next? Unreal.
 

The General

Another Day, Another Dollar
Re: I just want to throw up reading this crap!

Screw em'. Let's don't be hasty and assume to much. Tomorrow may bring more promise to all our needs (or not). We got to get there first.
 
Re: I just want to throw up reading this crap!

:+whippingTruly disgusting, but not surprising.

Note the article states the negotiations have been going on for a year, which very nearly coincides with the passing of Frist's abomination, the UIGEA.

I remember reading the UIGEA section that addresses gambling advertising and thinking that it might be bad for sports betting forums such as this one. But months went by and nothing surfaced.

Now this.

So it seems "negotiations", as they call them, began quite soon after the UIGEA became law, the thing that gave the government agencies "teeth".

And of course they go after the big boys first.

Now the question is, who's next?
 

The Devil

EOG Master
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THESE PEOPLE ARE GETTING FUCKING RETARDED WITH THIS CRAP.........
 

devilmann

EOG Addicted
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Shrink,

How can accepting advertising be illegal? The companies that are accepting and booking the wagers are in countries where this is a legal practice. All the US companies are doing is accepting ads from these companies detailing their services.

If I advertise vacations to Amsterdam on a travel website,for example, and show a picture of a hash/coffee house or brothel in the banner add or brochure can the government go after me? Both of these activities are considered illegal in the US, but perfectly legal in Amsterdam, and a large draw for tourists.

All I am saying is where is the line?
 

Woody

EOG Veteran
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You think the U.S. can go after websites based out of the United States?

Only if they arrest executives while traveling to the USA and they are European.

Business is business. Paypal Europe is a preferred method of funding Betfair while Yahoo Europe supports online poker.

I think the best thing for the DOJ to do is to block and censor sites that you Americans are too immature to be able to look at. If the government says you can't gamble online because it is dangerous for you, then they should censor all the enabling sites. An electronic wall around the US to go with the wall you're building on the Southern border.
 

Woody

EOG Veteran
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Shrink,

How can accepting advertising be illegal?

Whether it is illegal or not has never been determined in a court of law.

Don't you know how the DOJ operates? They cite you for something, threaten you with 20-25 years in jail and then generously accept a plea bargain or a negotiated settlement.

In the old days that was exactly how the mob operated, threaten and negotiate.
 
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Whether it is illegal or not has never been determined in a court of law.
It may never have been challenged in a court but it is law as of 2006 when the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act was passed clandestinely at the 11th hour. The UIGEA clearly states that ISPs not may transmit data (advertisements) of this sort (remember Washington state's reaction?). How this would affect forums such as this one, being it is hosted in Canada and with its ownership on paper having been blurred (wisely) by the owner, is unclear.

Don't you know how the DOJ operates? They cite you for something, threaten you with 20-25 years in jail and then generously accept a plea bargain or a negotiated settlement.
...
They certainly seem to have done that to google, yahoo, et al.
 
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I think the best thing for the DOJ to do is to block and censor sites that you Americans are too immature to be able to look at. If the government says you can't gamble online because it is dangerous for you, then they should censor all the enabling sites...

As reprehensible as your suggestion is (though I detect your exaggeration and sarcasm to make a point), the UIGEA does explicitly attempt to do just what you are saying, literally!
 
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Shrink,

How can accepting advertising be illegal? The companies that are accepting and booking the wagers are in countries where this is a legal practice. All the US companies are doing is accepting ads from these companies detailing their services.

If I advertise vacations to Amsterdam on a travel website,for example, and show a picture of a hash/coffee house or brothel in the banner add or brochure can the government go after me? Both of these activities are considered illegal in the US, but perfectly legal in Amsterdam, and a large draw for tourists.

All I am saying is where is the line?

The line is the The Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act passed last year. There's more in there than just making it difficult to transfer money to sportsbooks. There are sections that outright attack advertising gambling sites and even require ISPs to censor gambling business content (though there has been nothing surface in the news about the DOJ enforcing this part of the law, yet).
 
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Yes,

Have a good life...:cheers

If they can stop Google and Yahoo, I believe they can stop RX and EOG....



LMAO!!! But they can't stop sportshandicappingforum Ken!!!!:suit::houraWould love to see 'em come and try!!:+biting-2


What a bunch of pussies these gov't. fucks.
 

MIKEH75

EOG Dedicated
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fucking stupid bullshit.

these pussies need to go put this effort into catching child molesters,rapists and gangbangers.
 
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I was going to post a link to relevant parts of the UIGEA itself, which is widely available, but instead here is a clipping of an article where I. Nelson Rose, respected lawyer in these matters, explains it in plain English:

The Act provides for limited civil remedies against "interactive computer services." An Internet service provider can be ordered to remove sites and block hyperlinks to sites that are transmitting money to unlawful gambling sites. ISPs are under no obligation to monitor whether its patrons are sending funds to payment processors or even directly to gambling sites. But once it receives notice from an U.S. Attorney or state Attorney General, the ISP can be forced to appear at a hearing to be ordered to sever its links.


But the statute has an interesting requirement: The site must "reside on a computer server that such service controls or operates." This would limit the reach of this statute to payment processors, affiliates and search engines that are housed on that particular ISP. The same problem of going after foreign operators and payment processors affects this section. Foreign ISPs are difficult to serve and not necessarily subject to federal court injunctions.


The greatest danger here would seem to be with affiliates. Any American operator can be easily grabbed. This includes sites that don't directly take bets, but do refer visitors to gaming sites. If the affiliate is paid for those referrals by receiving a share of the money wagered or lost, it would not be difficult to charge the affiliate with violating this law, under the theory of aiding and abetting. Being a knowing accomplice and sharing in the proceeds of a crime make the aider and abettor guilty of the crime itself. The federal government could also charge the affiliate with conspiracy to violate this new Act.


The other danger lies with search engines. Although California-based Google does not take paid ads, punching in "sports bet" brings ups many links to real-money sites. This new Act expressly allows a federal court to order the removal of "a hypertext link to an online site" that is violating the prohibition on money transfers.

retrieved 12/19/06 from: The Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006 Analyzed
 

Fletcher

EOG Addicted
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When will they go after NBC for letting poker players advertise their web sites on their clothes and hats during 'Poker after Dark"? Don't they have any NBC affiliates in MO?! I guess NBC has too much lobbying power in Washington to be f..cked with. That's over-the-air broadcast TV, too.
 

ComptrBob

EOG Master
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All Ron Paul has to do is fire the US attorney for the Eastern District of Missouri.

Quite easy ...
 

Woody

EOG Veteran
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The complaint was filed three and a half years ago. So what ever happened, I wonder.

The DOJ weasled out on a technicality.

Basically the finding was the suit lacked some kind of legal validity and was thrown out. Clearly the DOJ did not want to risk going to trial and losing. Casino City could not be bought off on any negotiated settlement since that is their only business, advertising casinos.

They have never received a cease and desist order and brought suit to protect their rights and their business. Pity the 3 big boys folded.
 

Freezer

Banned
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Microsoft, Google, Yahoo to Pay $31.5 Million Over Gambling Ads

ST. LOUIS (AP) -- The three largest Internet companies have agreed to pay a combined $31.5 million to settle federal civil allegations they took ads for illegal gambling, the U.S. Attorney for eastern Missouri said Wednesday.

Microsoft Corp., Yahoo Inc. and Google Inc. also agreed to stop accepting ads for sports wagering and other online gambling, U.S. Attorney Catherine Hanaway said.

The investigation conducted by Hanaway's office, along with the IRS and the FBI, dates to 2000, she said. Negotiations have been going on for 12 to 18 months, she said.

"This is a very profitable business that had a lot of money to spend on marketing," Hanaway said of the online gambling firms advertising on the Web.

All three companies said they stopped taking the ads years ago.

"I do think it will have a major impact, Hanaway said. Obviously these are three of the largest online organizations in the world."

Microsoft's $21 million portion of the settlement includes a $4.5 million forfeit, $7.5 million to be paid to the International Center for Missing and Exploited Children and $9 million in public service ads over a three-year period starting next year.

The public service campaign will be aimed at informing users, especially those of college age and younger, that online gambling is illegal.

Microsoft said it stopped accepting ads from sites associated with online gambling nearly four years ago.

"This agreement reflects our ongoing commitment to online safety," the company said in a statement. "We're hopeful that our educational campaign will stop young people from gambling before they start."

Yahoo's $7.5 million share of the settlement includes a $3 million forfeiture and $4.5 million in public service ads over three years.

"Yahoo stopped accepting online gambling advertisements years ago, and after the U.S. Attorney's office contacted Yahoo with its concerns, we worked cooperatively over several years to reach this settlement," spokeswoman Kelley Benander said in a statement.

Google is to pay $3 million, less than half its average daily profit of $11 million. Spokesman Jon Murchinson said the ads appeared in sponsored links at Google.com and other Web sites that that belong to its ad network.

"While we did not admit any wrongdoing, the Department of Justice has advised that online gambling is illegal in the United States and ads to promote it are improper," Murchinson said in a statement. "Google voluntarily discontinued running such ads, which were a very small part of our AdWords business, in April 2004."

The U.S. Attorney's office here has led in the effort to halt illegal Web-based gambling, a roughly $6 billion a year industry in the U.S. that violates the Federal Wire Wager Act among other federal laws.

Earlier this year, the London-based Internet gambling firm BetOnSports PLC pleaded guilty in St. Louis to federal racketeering charges. Cases are still pending against company executives. Hanaway's office also settled a civil case against BetOnSports in November 2006. That settlement prohibits the company from accepting any bets from gamblers in the U.S.

The investigations of Microsoft, Yahoo and Google were unrelated to the BetOnSports case, authorities said.

The U.S. Attorney's office in St. Louis has previously prosecuted and settled with other companies over Web-based gambling and gambling ads -- agreements that generated more than $40 million in forfeitures and back taxes.

"I do think the prosecution from this office has had a chilling affect on online gambling," Hanaway said.

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Just Sickening!!!!!
 

roseman

EOG Dedicated
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You've got to be kidding is right. I mean how on earth are these sites being pressured? Will anyone actually stand up to this and make a stand. I know its a drop in the bucket, especially with google, but geez.
 

The General

Another Day, Another Dollar
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I think one of the next moves in the chess match will be to go after the Neteller account holders for tax penalties. We have been given a date which to get our funds out of there. After this date and it may not be long but the IRS will likely be sending out some letters to gamblers to review their accounts and the transactions. They are probably working on this as we type.
 
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