Thousands of babies & or children are dying of Covid-19 in Brazil

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"Between February 2020 and 15 March 2021, Covid-19 killed at least 852 of Brazil's children up to the age of nine, including 518 babies under one year old, according to figures from the Brazilian Ministry of Health. But Dr Marinho estimates that more than twice this number of children died of Covid. A serious problem of underreporting due to lack of Covid testing is bringing the numbers down, she says.

Dr Marinho calculated the excess of deaths by unspecified acute respiratory syndrome during the pandemic, and found that there were 10 times more deaths by unexplained respiratory syndrome than in previous years. By adding these numbers, she estimates that the virus in fact killed 2,060 children under nine years old, including 1,302 babies.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-56696907
 
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"Ho Chi Minh: Vietnam to test entire city amid new variant fears":

Vietnam hopes to tackle a new Covid outbreak by testing the entire population of Ho Chi Minh City and introducing new social distancing measures.
The efforts come in response to a new cluster linked to a religious mission.
Vietnam has had relative success in controlling the virus but cases have been rising over the past weeks.
Over the weekend, officials warned of a new "very dangerous" hybrid variant discovered in the country.
The government says the new variant combines features of the variants first identified in India and the UK, and is easily transmissible by air.
Overall, the country has registered just over 7,000 infections and 47 deaths, but the latest spike accounts for more than half of the total number of cases.

The latest outbreak in Ho Chi Minh City is centred around a Christian mission which had seen at least 125 positive cases, and accounts for most of the city's infections.
Those living in the vicinity of the cluster have already been tested and are in lockdown.
Officials now plan to test the rest of Ho Chi Minh City's 13 million people.
At a testing rate of 100,000 per day, the effort would take authorities more than four months to complete.
In addition to testing, officials also announced new social distancing measures across the city for 15 days, starting from 31 May.
Shops and restaurants are closed, and religious activities have been suspended.

"All events that gather more than 10 people in public are banned city-wide, but the city is considering to lower the number of people to just five," the government said.
When the virus first spread beyond China in early 2020, Vietnam acted fast and decisively, closing its borders to almost all travellers except returning citizens.
It then quarantined and tested everyone who entered the country. It also conducted widespread contact-tracing and testing.
The government is under pressure to ramp up vaccinations to combat the re-emergence of the virus.
Just over one million people or 1% of the population have received at least one dose of the vaccine so far.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-57303306
 
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You can never get enough fear.

Meanwhile in the real world it's all collapsing, went to the bar yesterday, 3 weeks ago when the mask mandate ended about 40% would still wear a mask coming in the door, a week ago it was maybe 10%, yesterday only 2 people out of 100 - and they didn't wear one on the way out.

But watch out for those variants.
 
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mr merlin said:
You can never get enough fear.

Meanwhile in the real world\
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If news re the real world scares you, turn it off & don't continually participate in threads about it.

The rest of us who aren't pussies can handle it without freaking out.


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If this is "fear mongering" what is it you types are doing when you lie about thousands dying from covid19 vaccines?

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Oh. For sure. 30 threads of COVID-19 fear porn on one page started by you is clearly evidence of how little fear it holds over you.
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Nice dodge. Don't be scared to give a straight answer. The boogeyman won't get you! LOL.

It's clearly evidence of efforts to disperse the darkness with light, inoculate those acting responsibly against covidiocy, & free those bound with its' chains from the dark side.
 
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Nonsense. I post truth. My opponents are habitual insulting liars & deceivers. The evidence of that is plain to see all over this forum & in this very thread.
 
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Nonsense. I post truth. My opponents are habitual insulting liars & deceivers. The evidence of that is plain to see all over this forum & in this very thread.
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You post propaganda and your delusions are the only thing that are plain to see in the countless fear mongering threads you post.
 
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Vietnam: 47 dead

USA almost 600,000

LOL.

The USA lost already & some people don't even know it!

LOL.
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If Vietnam was basically shut down the entire time and wore masks. - it’s not working.
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"Vietnam is cited by global media as having one of the best-organized epidemic control programs in the world,[11][12][13] along the lines of other highlights such as Taiwan and South Korea.[14] This success has been attributed to several key factors, including a well-developed public health system, a decisive central government, and a proactive containment strategy based on comprehensive testing, tracing, and quarantining.[15] Despite inferior economic and technological capacity, the country's response to the outbreak has received widespread international acclaim for its immediacy, effectiveness and transparency,[16] in contrast to censorship in China[17] and the poor preparation in the United States and in European countries.[14][18][19][20]"

"Although the pandemic has heavily disrupted the country's economy,[21] Vietnam's GDP growth rate still remained one of the highest in Asia-Pacific Region, at 2.91% in 2020 and projected growth of 6.6% in 2021.[22][23][24]"

Bottom line: Vietnam kicked the US's ass all over the covid playground, just as it did in the Vietnam War.
 
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Just got back from the casino, down to 5-10% masks - a few old people near death is all now. the staff all took them off since my last visit, obviously most of them are not vaccinated as well.
 
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FairWarning said:
I don’t care what happened 3 months ago. If Vietnam is shut down the next five years, are they winning?
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Who said anything about 3 months ago.

I expect Vietnam will still be considered a pandemic success & the USA a pandemic failure a year from now. Because, as I said:

Vietnam: 47 dead

USA almost 600,000

LOL.

The USA lost already & some people don't even know it!

LOL.
 
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Who said anything about 3 months ago.

I expect Vietnam will still be considered a pandemic success & the USA a pandemic failure a year from now. Because, as I said:

Vietnam: 47 dead

USA almost 600,000

LOL.

The USA lost already & some people don't even know it!

LOL.
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How do you balance infection numbers/deaths and economic impact?

Or is the economic impact utterly meaningless to you?
 
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mr merlin said:
How do you balance infection numbers/deaths and economic impact?

Or is the economic impact utterly meaningless to you?
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Didn't you read my post:

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"Vietnam is cited by global media as having one of the best-organized epidemic control programs in the world,[11][12][13] along the lines of other highlights such as Taiwan and South Korea.[14] This success has been attributed to several key factors, including a well-developed public health system, a decisive central government, and a proactive containment strategy based on comprehensive testing, tracing, and quarantining.[15] Despite inferior economic and technological capacity, the country's response to the outbreak has received widespread international acclaim for its immediacy, effectiveness and transparency,[16] in contrast to censorship in China[17] and the poor preparation in the United States and in European countries.[14][18][19][20]"

"Although the pandemic has heavily disrupted the country's economy,[21] Vietnam's GDP growth rate still remained one of the highest in Asia-Pacific Region, at 2.91% in 2020 and projected growth of 6.6% in 2021.[22][23][24]"

Bottom line: Vietnam kicked the US's ass all over the covid playground, just as it did in the Vietnam War.
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Didn't you read my post:
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I asked you, not some cut and paste from a meaningless opinion article.

I'll ask again, how do YOU balance covid statistics and the economic impact of shutdowns/lockdowns and other mitigation?

Apparently in your world Washington did a better job than South Dakota, even though one was open the whole year and one was mostly shut? You have to balance the 2 different data sets, it's not all one or the other.
 
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Like I've said over and over again, he can't think for himself. He needs to copy and paste the words of others to represent what he calls his opinion.
 
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When have you ever shown anything i've posted was fake? You ilk post fake stuff all the time & i've exposed it multiple times.
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As delusional as they come.

Guess that's what happens when you're stuck staring at four walls day after day, hour after hour.
 
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mr merlin said:
How do you balance infection numbers/deaths and economic impact?

Or is the economic impact utterly meaningless to you?
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IMO the extreme safety measures (lockdowns, distancing, masks, etc) were well worth the health & lives saved by such. There would have been economic fallout anyway, while such measures will be good for the economy in the long run. So the measures were a win win.
 
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IMO the extreme safety measures (lockdowns, distancing, masks, etc) were well worth the health & lives saved by such. There would have been economic fallout anyway, while such measures will be good for the economy in the long run. So the measures were a win win.
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Keep it shut down as long as there are variants? You may have them for 50 years.
 
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Keep it shut down as long as there are variants? You may have them for 50 years.
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The variant nonsense is just that, all virus's mutate because they are replicating with each new infection, it's like a new generation being born every week or two. That's why things change so fast. It's evolution occurring at high speed.
So it's nothing new, nothing unusual, not at all scary, it's natural in every way. The fear mongering is what's unusual.

It's also a fact that almost all the time virus's mutate to a more infectious but less dangerous form, it's better if the host survives, it's better if the host is not waylaid but moves around while infected - that's better for their continued survival.

So when we hear that some new variant has been discovered and "oh my god, it's more infectious"...of course it is, it's supposed to be.
 
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FairWarning said:
Keep it shut down as long as there are variants? You may have them for 50 years.
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Vaccines are ruling out the need for lockdowns.

Obviously if something else comes along that is more infectious and more deadly than covid19 variants that have come so far, then lockdowns may be considered by the USA & others countries as well. Hopefully, as far as that's concerned, health authorities will stay on top of things so that the world is well prepared for future viruses. "An ounce of [preparation &] prevention is worth a pound of cure".
 
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