Saddam Had WMD

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EOG Master
Posted 2/24/2006
WMD: Now that Leno and Letterman have had their way with Vice President Cheney's hunting accident and the port controversy, maybe we can get back to something really important ? like Saddam's WMD program.
Yes, the linchpin of opposition to the Iraq War ? never really strong to begin with ? has taken some real hits in recent weeks. And "Bush lied" ? the anti-war mantra about the president, Saddam Hussein and weapons of mass destruction ? looks the most battered.
Inconveniently for critics of the war, Saddam made tapes in his version of the Oval Office. These tapes landed in the hands of American intelligence and were recently aired publicly.
The first 12 hours of the tapes ? there are hundreds more waiting to be translated ? are damning, to say the least. They show conclusively that Bush didn't lie when he cited Saddam's WMD plans as one of the big reasons for taking the dictator out.
Nobody disputes the tapes' authenticity. On them, Saddam talks openly of programs involving biological, chemical and, yes, nuclear weapons.
War foes have long asserted that Saddam halted his WMD programs in the wake of his defeat in the first Gulf War in 1991. Saddam's abandonment of WMD programs was confirmed by subsequent U.N. inspections.
Again, not true. In a tape dating to April 1995, Saddam and several aides discuss the fact that U.N. inspectors had found traces of Iraq's biological weapons program. On the tape, Hussein Kamel, Saddam's son-in-law, is heard gloating about fooling the inspectors.
"We did not reveal all that we have," he says. "Not the type of weapons, not the volume of the materials we imported, not the volume of the production we told them about, not the volume of use. None of this was correct."
There's more. Indeed, as late as 2000, Saddam can be heard in his office talking with Iraqi scientists about his ongoing plans to build a nuclear device. At one point, he discusses Iraq's plasma uranium program ? something that was missed entirely by U.N. weapons inspectors combing Iraq for WMD.
This is particularly troubling, since it indicates an active, ongoing attempt by Saddam to build an Iraqi nuclear bomb.
"What was most disturbing," said John Tierney, the ex- FBI agent who translated the tapes, "was the fact that the individuals briefing Saddam were totally unknown to the U.N. Special Commission (or UNSCOM, the group set up to look into Iraq's WMD programs)."
Perhaps most chillingly, the tapes record Iraq Foreign Minister Tariq Aziz talking about how easy it would be to set off a WMD in Washington. The comments come shortly after Saddam muses about using "proxies" in a terror attack.
9-11, anyone?
In short, let us repeat: President Bush was right. We had to invade to disarm Saddam ? otherwise, he would have completely reconstituted his chemical, nuclear and bio-weapons programs when inspectors left.
Saddam probably knew better than to use them himself against the U.S. But it's likely he wouldn't have hesitated giving one or more to terror groups with which he had routine contact.
Lest you think we're making the case entirely based on these tapes, let us assure you that other evidence ? mounting by the day ? points to the same conclusion.
We've been very impressed by the story told by Georges Sada, the former No. 2 in Iraq's air force. He has written a book, "Saddam's Secrets," that details how the Iraqi dictator used trucks, commercial jets and ships to remove his WMD from the country. At the time, the move went largely undetected, because Iraq pretended the massive movement of materiel was to help Syrian flood victims.
Nor is Sada alone. Ali Ibrahim, another of Saddam's former commanders, has largely corroborated Sada's story.
So how was Saddam able to use his "cheat and retreat" tactics without being found out? He had help, according to a former U.S. Defense Department official.
"The short answer to the question of where the WMD Saddam bought from the Russians went was that they went to Syria and Lebanon," said John Shaw, former deputy undersecretary of defense, in comments made at an intelligence summit Feb. 17-20 in Arlington, Va.
"They were moved by Russian Spetsnaz (special ops) units out of uniform that were specifically sent to Iraq to move the weaponry and eradicate any evidence of its existence," he said.
These are extraordinary developments. They deserve a full airing in the media, since they essentially validate part of Bush's casus belli for invading Iraq and deposing the murderous Saddam.
But once again, the mainstream media have dropped the ball. They seem more interested in Dick Cheney's marksmanship and American port management than in setting the record straight about one of the most important developments of our time.
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dirty

EOG Master
NO matter how much evidence is uncovered......and we are just now got to the Tip of the iceberg Translating all this.....Some will never believe......Kinda Like some still believe OJ and Michael Jackson is Innocent.....The hatred for Bush Blinds many.....But still can't hide the Facts when ther are Revealed.
 

The General

Another Day, Another Dollar
Hatred for Bush? Is it our fault that he has presented nothing much more than selfish and ignorant decisions as our leader? Does it not count that his approval rating may reach a record low for a Pres before his admin leaves office?

Maybe the supporters are blinded.

It's a 2-way outlook or perception where the answer lies in the middle. He may be sincere but he may be the devil too.

He ACTS like God so likley he is nowhere close to being that.
 

dirty

EOG Master
Bush has nothing to do with Facts that are being uncovered.....may I add that Bipartisan Support with only 4 people not voting to go to War in Iraq....And it is ending up that the Intelligence that Both parties looked at was and is Correct.....Just taking longer than People expected.....Saddam was not a idiot....


And Opinion Polls are total Bunk......It all depends on who you poll and what questions you ask....You can get any result you want out of Opinion polls....POlls are there only to Fuel Agenda's.....Who really cares about people's opinions of things they really know nothing about....Just what the Agenda Driven Media Want you to know.....Funny how these tapes and Testimony From his top People in his Military never hits the Mainstream Press.....The Stuff is out there you just have to want to know the Truth and not have an Agenda......I want the Truth don't really care the Outcome....Whether the left or right is right or wrong....Doesn't really matter in the big picture of things...But ridding the world of a Lunatic with WMD's and Nuclear Capabilities does matter...
 

jyd

EOG Member
oh well, we"ll find them when we go into IRAN or SIRIA PLENTY OF TIME BEFORE NEXT ELECTION
wonder how we are going to get the people here to let the draft be reinstated?
 
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