4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

[Ball Rash]

So I was reading one of the dutch newspapers today and I saw this headline stating that the 4 month old toddler that's said to be Palin's child is not hers but her daughter's child.

Here's the link provided by the dutch paper.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223


I'm just the messenger here so don't go off on me ya whackos

 

[tar_baby]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

add this to the list:
moon landing
holocaust
9/11
JFK
Oklahoma City
WTC 1
Palin's child

 

[Ball Rash]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

add this to the list:
moon landing
holocaust
9/11
JFK
Oklahoma City
WTC 1
Palin's child

you forgot Pat Tillman's death

 

[MAXIM]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

http://www.adn.com/front/story/336402.html

 

[tar_baby]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

trying to separate you from an extremist...do you believe that Trig isn't Sarah Palin's daughter Maxim?

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

http://stevekroll.net/sarah-palin-grandmother-scandal/sarah-palin/

 

[RealDeal]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

Yeah, I hear John Edwards is the father

 

[Munchkin Man]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

From The Munchkin Man:

The Democrats must feel mighty desparate to pry into Sarah Palin's family background and dig up something as trivial as this.

Munchkin Man

 

[RealDeal]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

From The Munchkin Man:

The Democrats must feel mighty desparate to pry into Sarah Palin's family background and dig up something as trivial as this.

Munchkin Man

Just goes to show you how gutless, spineless, classless and
clueless the scumbag panty wearing limp wristed leftist are.
Very sad.
I would bet Sarah's husband could take on two leftist at a time
a kick their a$$ with ease. God what I would pay to watch that!

 

[RealDeal]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

<table width="515" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding: 8px 0px 0px;">Lefty Bloggers Go After Palin's Daughter</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="tx10c1" style="padding: 8px 0px;"> Posted by: Amanda Carpenter at 5:47 PM</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="mainBlogtext"> Members of the lefty blogosphere haven't stopped perpetuating the rumor Sarah Palin "faked" her last pregnancy and are now humiliating her daughter Bristol on the blatantly incorrect suspicion she is the real mother of baby Trig.

"Sarah Palin is NOT the Mother" is the title of this DailyKos blog that accuses Bristol, a completely fit-looking adolescent teen, of having a "baby bump" in a photo they allege was taken March 9th of this year.

"Sarah, I'm calling you a liar" wrote blogger ArcXIX. "And not even a good one. Trig Paxson Van Palin is not your son. He is your grandson. The sooner you come forward with this revelation to the public, the better. <!-- polls come after this -->" Photos of Bristol with detailed commentary about her abdomen are contained in the post.

Not only is the DailyKos disgustingly inspecting Bristol's midriff with all the fervor of LA paparazzi examining J-Lo's or Jennifer Aniston's washboard stomachs for evidence of a "bump," the DailyKos is wrong on when the photo was taken. It was taken, and published, by the Anchorage Daily News in 2006. Baby Trig, a child with Down's Syndrome, was born on April 18, 2008. That's a long time for a teen girl to be carrying a "bump" which looks nothing more than the curve of a tight sweater.

Shortly after Palin was announced as McCain's VP, bloggers at the Kos started ginning up the rumor Palin faked her pregnancy, allegedly to cover for an illegitimate grandchild, because she looked so fit and trim in photos taken a few months before giving birth.

This is only the latest in outrageous attacks against Palin as a mother. Fox News anchor Alan Colmes, of Hannity & Colmes, titled a recent post on his blog Liberaland "Did Palin Take Proper PreNatal Care?" In it, he wondered if she somehow was at fault for having a disabled child. Colmes took down the post after being attacked by the blog Wizbang and later reposted a screenshot of the blog to prove he "wasn't running away from what I posted."

Update: I originally mentioned this Kos rumor in a blog post about CNN's John Roberts's insinuation Palin would not give adequate care and attention to Trig if she became VP.</td></tr></tbody></table>

 

[Munchkin Man]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

I'm just the messenger here so don't go off on me ya whackos

Nope.

The Munchkin Man isn't letting you off that easy.

You were the one who accused the Munchkin Man of practicing "looney tunes politics" by bringing up the issue of abortion.

Did you know that the practice of abortion has resulted in the slaughter of over 50 million babies in the United States since 1973?

You would do well to bookmark the following site and study it for a while. The stats are there.

http://www.nrlc.org/

The Munchkin Man wants to stop the mass murder of innocent babies, a cause you belittle and dismiss as "looney tunes politics."

Yet, you and many other liberals are now obsessed with whether a member of Sarah Palin's family is either her daughter or granddaughter.

Do you fail to see how incredibly petty this is?

You are correct.

Looney tunes politics are alive and well.

And you are playing their song.

Munchkin Man

 

[MAXIM]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

trying to separate you from an extremist...do you believe that Trig isn't Sarah Palin's daughter Maxim?

I have no idea who's kid it is and i really don't care.
[I do believe 'Trig' is a boy though] lolololololololol

 

[Ego74]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

Yeah, I hear John Edwards is the father

:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO

 

[MAXIM]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

Did you know that the practice of abortion has resulted in the slaughter of over 50 million babies in the United States since 1973?

Did you know that the alternative to that was to have 50 million more babies
most likely living a life of poverty stricken misery? But you don't care about that.
[your selfish beliefs show no mercy by pushing them into a life of misery]

Your energy would be better spent helping the millions of children already suffering.

 

[Nicolos_Darvas]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

Looks like the Dumbocrats are already gettting desperate trotting this shit out the closet. Then again, they have always liked closets now haven't they ?

 

[Mason]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

Many of the same poeple who are outraged by this baseless rumor were the same ones spreading baseless rumors that Obama is Muslim and had lied to the media about it just a few short months ago.

No shortage of D-bags on either side of the political fence.

 

[Nicolos_Darvas]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

So I was reading one of the dutch newspapers today and I saw this headline stating that the 4 month old toddler that's said to be Palin's child is not hers but her daughter's child.

Here's the link provided by the dutch paper.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223


I'm just the messenger here so don't go off on me ya whackos

Daily Kos -- Nothing else needs to be said -- Hate speech rag -- Shouldn't these people be arrested under the Clinton Hate Speech laws that went into effect. This Democrat organization has ZERO credibility -- I hope the Dumbs are proud of their stellar journalism.

 

[RealDeal]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

Daily Kos -- Nothing else needs to be said -- Hate speech rag -- Shouldn't these people be arrested under the Clinton Hate Speech laws that went into effect. This Democrat organization has ZERO credibility -- I hope the Dumbs are proud of their stellar journalism.

I hope that the Palin's sue the leftist rag for all they have.

 

[MAXIM]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

No shortage of D-bags on either side of the political fence.

If only these staunch repub children would face up to those FACTS.
[then maybe there could be some mutual understanding] i doubt they will

 

[RealDeal]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

So I was reading one of the dutch newspapers today and I saw this headline stating that the 4 month old toddler that's said to be Palin's child is not hers but her daughter's child.

Here's the link provided by the dutch paper.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223


I'm just the messenger here so don't go off on me ya whackos

 

[tar_baby]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

yeah....umm..how could it be her granddaughter if her daughter is currently pregnant...nice try dems

now they'll focus their aim on the daughter

 

[Munchkin Man]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

Did you know that the alternative to that was to have 50 million more babies most likely living a life of poverty stricken misery?

Whoa!

Wait a minute!

Let the Munchkin Man get this straight.

You are stating that the 50 million babies who were aborted were "most likely" facing a "life of poverty stricken misery."

Most likely?

You are stating a conjecture of an event that you state is "most likely" to occur.

Therefore, you are making a guess about the general probability of a future event that is "most likely" to occur.

Therefore, you are speaking of an uncertainty.

Any "life of poverty stricken misery" that would occur would take place after a given abortion did not occur.

Do you really believe that the killing of an unborn baby, or the killing of a newborn baby after a failed abortion, is morally justified, based upon your guesswork of a future "life of poverty stricken misery" that only "might occur?"

If so, then your values and the Munchkin Man's values are miles apart.

For the sake of argument, however, let the Munchkin Man assume that your conjecture is correct -- that each and every one of the 50 million aborted babies were "most likely" to have faced a "life of poverty stricken misery" if they had not been aborted.

Does this morally justify taking away their right to life?

Does this morally justify taking away their right to live a life of self-determination which may help them rise above and overcome such a "life of poverty stricken miserty."

If you answered "yes" to both of the Munchkin Man's questions above, then once again, your values and the Munchkin Man's values are miles apart.

Pretend that you are a baby who is about to aborted. A doctor says to you in the abortion room:

"Hey look, Max. You are going to face a life of poverty stricken misery if you are allowed to live. So a decision has been made to end your life. Tough luck, kid."

Assuming that you were able to understand the above, would you be willing to agree to lay down your life and settle for that?

Wouldn't that piss you off?

But you don't care about that.

You are making an untrue assumption.

The Munchkin Man cares very deeply about people who live a "life of poverty stricken misery."

However, the Munchkin Man cares even more deeply about the right to life of innocent babies and their right to live and pursue a life of self-determination which can help them overcome such a "life of poverty stricken misery."

[your selfish beliefs show no mercy by pushing them into a life of misery]

Your selfish beliefs show no mercy by killing them with no opportunity for any life at all.

Munchkin Man

 

[MAXIM]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

Does this morally justify taking away their right to life?

I can't say it any clearer, YES !!! (Because they wouldn't have a LIFE).
But your beliefs lean toward forcing them to have to live that so-called LIFE.
There's always other options open and available for all of you kind hearted souls.
Number 1, you can join them in their "life of poverty stricken misery" for support.
Number 2, you can take on the responsibility of seeing that they are all cared for.
Number 3, you can spend all your energy on helping the millions already suffering.
It's a selfish act 4 you to force more unwanted children into a life of misery.

 

[MAXIM]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

Your selfish beliefs show no mercy by killing them with no opportunity for any life at all.

And your selfish beliefs want to roll the dice and hope they all come out a winner.
[knowing all along that the majority will NEVER have a realistic chance at it ever]

 

[Munchkin Man]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

Does this morally justify taking away their right to life?

I can't say it any clearer, YES !!!

The Munchkin Man can't say it any clearer either. NO!!!

Because they wouldn't have a LIFE.

You don't know that.

What you are essentially doing is playing God with your conjecture, by not only taking away the life of an aborted baby, but also by taking away the right of that baby to grow up and have the opportunity to seek out, explore, and execute, through one's God given right to self-determination, a set of choices which can lead to a fruitful, meaningful, and productive life.

But your beliefs lean toward forcing them to have to live that so-called LIFE.

Your beliefs force them into death with no opportunity for a life at all.

And your selfish beliefs want to roll the dice and hope they all come out a winner.
[knowing all along that the majority will NEVER have a realistic chance at it ever]

The Munchkin Man does not share your extremely pessimistic and fatalistic view of life.

It is really fruitless to continue this discussion.

The Munchkin Man cannot think of anything to add at this time.

The Munchkin Man has stated his case.

You have stated yours.

Your moral vaues and the the Munchkin Man's moral values are worlds apart on the abortion issue.

You and the Munchkin Man appear to have irreconciliable differences on the abortion issue.

That's just the way it is.

Munchkin Man

 

[MAXIM]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

What you are essentially doing is playing God with your conjecture, by not only taking away the life of an aborted baby, but also by taking away the right of that baby to grow up and have the opportunity to seek out, explore, and execute, through one's God given right to self-determination, a set of choices which can lead to a fruitful, meaningful, and productive life.

And you're playing god by wanting to force millions more to be born into a so-called
life, that ends up in suffering misery. That's a shameful thought for you to do that.

 

[Munchkin Man]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

And you're playing god by wanting to force millions more to be born into a so-called
life, that ends up in suffering misery. That's a shameful thought for you to do that.

You're playing God by wanting to execute millions of more babies and denying them the opportunity to seek out and achieve a successful life that doesn't have to end up in suffering misery. The Munchkin Man can think of nothing more shameful than that.

Munchkin Man

 

[MAXIM]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

You're playing God by wanting to execute millions of more babies and denying them the opportunity to seek out and achieve a successful life that doesn't have to end up in suffering misery. The Munchkin Man can think of nothing more shameful than that.

What's more shameful than that is you wanting to force them into a life of misery.
You can just build your own dungeon and take them all in to watch it all happen.
[they just might be better off that way, YOU might actually feed them sometimes]

 

[Mr. Sanderson]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

You're playing God by wanting to execute millions of more babies and denying them the opportunity to seek out and achieve a successful life that doesn't have to end up in suffering misery. The Munchkin Man can think of nothing more shameful than that.

Munchkin Man

can you take anyone seriously who refers to themself in the 3rd person??? its like listening to rickey henderson tell you you're playing god.

a joke.

 

[Munchkin Man]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

can you take anyone seriously who refers to themself in the 3rd person???

Greetings:

The Munchkin Man's answer is Yes.

Which is more important?

A) The content of what a person says.

Or:

B) The method or style with which the person says it.

Apparently, your answer is Choice B. This is evidenced by your focus upon the Munchkin Man's 3rd person writing style instead of what the Munchkin Man actually wrote.

The Munchkin Man's answer is Choice A.

When a person makes a particular statement, the Munchkin Man focuses his attention upon the content, truth, and validity of that statement, regardless of the style in which that statement was made.

You appear to be saying that the Munchkin Man's personal beliefs and convictions do not deserve to be taken seriously, just because the Munchkin Man expresses them in the 3rd person.

This tells the Munchkin Man that you value style over substance.

To the Munchkin Man, a personal gestalt of prioritizing style over substance reveals an extremely shallow psyche.

For the Munchkin Man, the "foreground" of the Munchkin Man's personal gestalt is substance, and the "background" of the Munchkin Man's personal gestalt is style.

For you, it appears to be the other way around.

Therefore, for the Munchkin Man, substance trumps style and always will.

Please allow the Munchkin Man to illustrate his point even further with the following statement:

"The Munchkin Man multiplied 25 by 25 and came up with a product of 625."

If you are unable to solve this problem in your head, go get a calculator.

Go ahead and multiply 25 X 25.

Indeed, the product is 625, just as the Munchkin Man has stated.

But wait!

There must be something wrong with the Munchkin Man's answer.

After all, he Munchkin Man expressed his answer in the 3rd person.

Surely now, such a statement must not be taken seriously.

Therefore, it probably isn't even true.

Do you see how silly this line of thinking is?

It is not only silly, but it is also completely and totally fallacious.

That's because 25 X 25 IS EQUAL TO 625!!!

Although this is an extreme example, sometimes it takes an extreme example to explain and illustrate a point.

Content trumps style.

Period.

its like listening to rickey henderson tell you you're playing god. a joke.

The Munchkin Man would like to suggest that you start focusing greater attention upon the content of person's message than upon the style of a person's message.

The Munchkin Man says that multiplying 25 by 25 results in a product of 625.

This is no joke.

It is absolutely true.

The fact that this mathematical statement was expressed in the 3rd person does not invalidate or negate the truth of this statement.

Content trumps style.

Likewise, the sincerity and the strength of the Munchkin Man's personal convictions and views on abortion are no joke either.

They cannot be logically negated or invalidated or taken less seriously, on the basis of the fact they have been expressed in the 3rd person.

Those who do so are guilty of faulty and fallacious thinking.

Content trumps style.

Period.

Best Wishes,

Munchkin Man

 

[Munchkin Man]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

You're playing God by wanting to execute millions of more babies and denying them the opportunity to seek out and achieve a successful life that doesn't have to end up in suffering misery. The Munchkin Man can think of nothing more shameful than that.
Munchkin Man

What's more shameful than that is you wanting to force them into a life of misery.

Are you saying that allowing a baby to live is "shameful?"

To the Munchkin Man, this is absolutely incredible.

Please allow the Munchkin Man to try to explain to you the fallacy of your statement above.

You are essentially stating that each and every single baby who is slated to be aborted is going to live a "life of misery", without even allowing the baby to live out his or her life and find out.

Who gave you the gift of prophecy to fortell that each and every single baby who is going to be aborted is absolutely and positively going to suffer the fate of a "life of misery" if they are not aborted?

Nobody gave you this gift of prophecy.

That's because you don't have it.

It exists only in your own mind.

This is one way in which you are playing God.

You further state that it is shameful to force a baby to live, just because your false and delusional belief in your gift of prophecy has told you that the baby is going to suffer a "life of misery."

Therefore, your solution is to execute that baby.

Without any evidence whatsoever, you are stating that a baby who is slated for an abortion deserves to be killed, on the sole basis on a future and unfounded prediction that the baby is going to suffer a "life of misery."

Who are you to make a judgement call on a baby's future "life of misery" and demand that the baby becomes executed, which denies that baby the God given right to live out his or her life in search of happiness?

If this isn't playing God, the Munchkin Man doesn't know what is.

Very Sincerely,

Munchkin Man

 

[MAXIM]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

You are essentially stating that each and every single baby who is slated to be aborted is going to live a "life of misery", without even allowing the baby to live out his or her life and find out.

Who gave you the gift of prophecy to fortell that each and every single baby who is going to be aborted is absolutely and positively going to suffer the fate of a "life of misery" if they are not aborted?

Now you're putting words in my mouth, i NEVER said "every single baby"
not one single time anywhere. You and i both know that i was referring
to the MAJORITY and i also said, "most likely". Now go get an abortion.
op:

 

[Munchkin Man]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

Now you're putting words in my mouth, i NEVER said "every single baby"
not one single time anywhere. You and i both know that i was referring
to the MAJORITY and i also said, "most likely". Now go get an abortion.
op:

The Munchkin Man was making use of hyperbole, which is often used as a debating tactic to emphasize a point and trap the unwary.

You fell right into it.

It doesn't matter if you claim that "every single baby" or only one single baby is going to live a "life of misery" if not aborted, as your justification and rationalization for the killing of any baby, to make you guilty of playing God.

In addition, you advocate the killing of these innocent babies, even though you concede that the probability that they will live a "live of misery" is "most likely" instead of certain.

You are trying to justify and rationalize the killing of innocent babies on the basis of what you believe is "most likely" to occur.

To the Munchkin Man, this makes your position even more morally indefensible.

The Munchkin Man hopes you are prepared to explain your support for the killing of innocent babies before your Creator.

With Prayers,

Munchkin Man

 

[MAXIM]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

The Munchkin Man hopes you are prepared to explain your support for the killing of innocent babies before your Creator.

I'm prepared to explain to anyone and everyone that you need psychiatric help. :+clueless

 

[Tiger V]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

Did you know that the alternative to that was to have 50 million more babies
most likely living a life of poverty stricken misery? But you don't care about that.
[your selfish beliefs show no mercy by pushing them into a life of misery]

Your energy would be better spent helping the millions of children already suffering.

So Maxim ,do you think everyone who is either living in poverty or is miserable should just be put to death?After all that seems to you that would be helping them.

 

[tar_baby]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

What's more shameful than that is you wanting to force them into a life of misery.
You can just build your own dungeon and take them all in to watch it all happen.
[they just might be better off that way, YOU might actually feed them sometimes]

this is bullshit....how do you know they would live a life of misery?

ever seen where Clarence Thomas grew up?...I have and it is a complete shithole. According to your reasoning he should have been aborted to save him from such a miserable life

you assume that we, as Americans, can't work hard and make something better of ourselves....you just shit on every person who worked hard and rose up from poverty and destitution

Abraham Lincoln
Bill Gates
...even Oprah to name a few

you dont have much confidence in the power of the human spirit do ya boy?

 

[KTBKRUSHER]

Re: 4 month old toddler Palin's grandchild and not child?

I wonder if any person ever born into poverty has ever risen above it and made something of themselves.
I wonder if the numerous people born into slavery would say they would rather have died.
I wonder if MLK wished his dad had just aborted him because then he would not have had to live a life of poverty..oh wait...

Maxim has the most moronic reasoning in here since Doc