Sarah has more executive level experience than Biden or Obama -- She is running a state. Obama and Biden just talk in the Senate.
On the issue of experience ...
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MAXIM
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Is that your next ridiculous act of ignorance, [dispute the level of experience?]
(vs actual on the job experience) you're reaching for straws aren't you? :+clueless
[put foot in mouth]
Is that your next ridiculous act of ignorance, [dispute the level of experience?]
(vs actual on the job experience) you're reaching for straws aren't you? :+clueless
So that's all that Johnny Mac does to then, right genius? LMAO
[put foot in mouth]
MAXIM
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[put foot in mouth] :LMAO :LMAO :LMAO
So that's all that Johnny Mac does to then, right genius?
[put foot in mouth] :LMAO :LMAO :LMAO
MAXIM
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Does that mean that every politician in every state that borders Canada
has more experience in foreign policy? [insert foot in mouth AGAIN] :+clueless
Just stop it with your ignorant statements son, you don't have a clue.
Does that mean that every politician in every state that borders Canada
has more experience in foreign policy? [insert foot in mouth AGAIN] :+clueless
MAXIM
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Take your ignorant little kiddy shit somewhere else. [little ignorant boy] :+clueless
Enough of your smartass mouth with your (boy) shit kid. GO FUCK YOURSELF
Take your ignorant little kiddy shit somewhere else. [little ignorant boy] :+clueless
MAXIM
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He's just an ignorant little kid that doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
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Johnny Mac is a US American Navy Fighter Pilot -- An officer who by default gained executive level experience during his military career.
Come on guys -- Obama has ZERO foreign policy ... ZERO military experience and you guys are going to try and use this VP pick against McCain
NOW THAT IS REALLY FUNNY !!!!
Obama The JOKE and all his anti-White anti-American hater friends.
Johnny Mac is a US American Navy Fighter Pilot -- An officer who by default gained executive level experience during his military career.
Come on guys -- Obama has ZERO foreign policy ... ZERO military experience and you guys are going to try and use this VP pick against McCain
NOW THAT IS REALLY FUNNY !!!!
Obama The JOKE and all his anti-White anti-American hater friends.
MAXIM
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Or maybe you just didn't learn that growing up. You certainly haven't shown it.
That also explains why you don't understand the realty of life in America yet.
Just as i thought, i had a job before you were even born. [show some respect]
Or maybe you just didn't learn that growing up. You certainly haven't shown it.
That also explains why you don't understand the realty of life in America yet.
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"However, the nature of the experience couldn?t be more different. Palin spent her entire political career crusading against the political machine that rules Alaska ? which exists in her own Republican party. She blew the whistle on the state GOP chair, who had abused his power on the same commission to conduct party business. Obama, in contrast, talked a great deal about reform in Chicago but never challenged the party machine, preferring to take an easy ride as a proteg? of Richard Daley instead."
"However, the nature of the experience couldn?t be more different. Palin spent her entire political career crusading against the political machine that rules Alaska ? which exists in her own Republican party. She blew the whistle on the state GOP chair, who had abused his power on the same commission to conduct party business. Obama, in contrast, talked a great deal about reform in Chicago but never challenged the party machine, preferring to take an easy ride as a proteg? of Richard Daley instead."
MAXIM
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[SIZE=+2]Presidents who were in the military but who saw no action[/SIZE]
Wanna be president? Get in line
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The Obama campaign came out swinging Tuesday with a memo by former State Department Policy Planning chief Greg Craig -- who is most noted for defending Bill Clinton in his impeachment trial -- detailing the holes in Hillary Clinton's claims that she has amassed vast amounts of foreign-policy experience over the last 15 years. Since Clinton is making these claims, I guess they deserve a closer look. But in general, all this talk of a foreign-policy threshold for presidents is profoundly overdone.
Pop quiz: Name the presidents since World War II who might have passed this so-called threshold? Certainly not Clinton's own husband, who arguably came to office with the least-developed foreign policy mind of any 20th-century president. Ike, LBJ, Richard Nixon, and George H.W. Bush are four who might pass "the threshold." Maybe Gerald Ford, who served more than two decades in the House, then was Nixon's veep. But the truth is, most presidents would not qualify, including JFK, Jimmy Carter, George W. Bush, and, yes, Ronald Reagan.
Next question ?
It's safe to say that these 3 presidents had zero military experience also.
[SIZE=+2]Presidents who were in the military but who saw no action[/SIZE]
- [SIZE=+1]Ronald Reagan - [/SIZE]kept out of combat due to bad eyesight
- [SIZE=+1]George W. Bush[/SIZE]
- [SIZE=+1]Bill Clinton - [/SIZE]but he did a fine job for 8 years
Wanna be president? Get in line
<!-- start main content -->Wed, 03/12/2008
The Obama campaign came out swinging Tuesday with a memo by former State Department Policy Planning chief Greg Craig -- who is most noted for defending Bill Clinton in his impeachment trial -- detailing the holes in Hillary Clinton's claims that she has amassed vast amounts of foreign-policy experience over the last 15 years. Since Clinton is making these claims, I guess they deserve a closer look. But in general, all this talk of a foreign-policy threshold for presidents is profoundly overdone.
Pop quiz: Name the presidents since World War II who might have passed this so-called threshold? Certainly not Clinton's own husband, who arguably came to office with the least-developed foreign policy mind of any 20th-century president. Ike, LBJ, Richard Nixon, and George H.W. Bush are four who might pass "the threshold." Maybe Gerald Ford, who served more than two decades in the House, then was Nixon's veep. But the truth is, most presidents would not qualify, including JFK, Jimmy Carter, George W. Bush, and, yes, Ronald Reagan.
Next question ?
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If this question about foreign POLICY experience Bravo Sierra were SO important than you should not vote for ANYONE that has not spent X amount of years in the State Department.
Last time I checked the Secretary of State was in CHARGE of handling America's foreign policy.
In case anyone forgot... These are the explicit powers of the President, as granted by the Constitution...
Article II, Section 2... http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articleii.html#section2
<emp>Section 2.</emp> The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States; he may require the opinion, in writing, of the principal officer in each of the executive departments, upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices, and he shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.
He shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by law: but the Congress may by law vest the appointment of such inferior officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments.
The President shall have power to fill up all vacancies that may happen during the recess of the Senate, by granting commissions which shall expire at the end of their next session.
Analyzing these powers, I'm still uncertain as to WHY "foreign policy experience" should be SO important that it is tantamount for a person to be elected President.
If this question about foreign POLICY experience Bravo Sierra were SO important than you should not vote for ANYONE that has not spent X amount of years in the State Department.
Last time I checked the Secretary of State was in CHARGE of handling America's foreign policy.
In case anyone forgot... These are the explicit powers of the President, as granted by the Constitution...
Article II, Section 2... http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articleii.html#section2
<emp>Section 2.</emp> The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States; he may require the opinion, in writing, of the principal officer in each of the executive departments, upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices, and he shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.
He shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by law: but the Congress may by law vest the appointment of such inferior officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments.
The President shall have power to fill up all vacancies that may happen during the recess of the Senate, by granting commissions which shall expire at the end of their next session.
Analyzing these powers, I'm still uncertain as to WHY "foreign policy experience" should be SO important that it is tantamount for a person to be elected President.
Spytheweb
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John McCain, who crashed 5 aircraft, who's daddy and grand pappy were admirals, McCain is a self made man huh? Finished 894 out of 899, bottom of class. Where's the experience? Experience taking lobbyist's checks for 26 years.
John McCain, who crashed 5 aircraft, who's daddy and grand pappy were admirals, McCain is a self made man huh? Finished 894 out of 899, bottom of class. Where's the experience? Experience taking lobbyist's checks for 26 years.
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Completely Untrue.
To which "attacks" are you referring to and exactly HOW did any military deficiencies contribute to their perpetration?
Completely Untrue.
To which "attacks" are you referring to and exactly HOW did any military deficiencies contribute to their perpetration?
MAXIM
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pants back then, so you wouldn't know that.
Why do insist on continuing to make yourself look like a complete dumbfuck?
Oh that's right, you were still pooping your
pants back then, so you wouldn't know that.
I told you about your (boy) shit. Now GO FUCK YOURSELF clueless little kid.
Why do insist on continuing to make yourself look like a complete dumbfuck?
MAXIM
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[he helped to create an estimated 25,000,000 jobs during his time in office]
He did the best job for the people of this country in the last 20 years for sure.
[he helped to create an estimated 25,000,000 jobs during his time in office]
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:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
Exactly what policies did Clinton implement to create these 25 Million jobs ??? Could it be that it just so happened that the Reagan Revolution created all these jobs through the massive tax reductions and huge investment incentives given to those to create this huge economic engine we have all enjoyed over the last 25+ years.
Clinton didn't do shit to create those jobs -- All he did is sit back and get a blow job and create a constitutional crisis.
:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
Exactly what policies did Clinton implement to create these 25 Million jobs ??? Could it be that it just so happened that the Reagan Revolution created all these jobs through the massive tax reductions and huge investment incentives given to those to create this huge economic engine we have all enjoyed over the last 25+ years.
Clinton didn't do shit to create those jobs -- All he did is sit back and get a blow job and create a constitutional crisis.
ACCC
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I don't think Bill Clinton did a fine job at all, but military experience can't be a requirement for a president.
In general, the lack of experience isn't really an issue for me - someone can step in and make decisions if they have intelligence, the right advisors, and general knowledge of politics, world affairs, etc. Just because Obama and Palin haven't had years of experience directly involved with international affairs doesn't mean that they are not aware of what is going on in the world and what has happened in the past. They could certainly make decisions if they have the right knowledge and skills, regardless of their personal job experience.
I don't think Bill Clinton did a fine job at all, but military experience can't be a requirement for a president.
In general, the lack of experience isn't really an issue for me - someone can step in and make decisions if they have intelligence, the right advisors, and general knowledge of politics, world affairs, etc. Just because Obama and Palin haven't had years of experience directly involved with international affairs doesn't mean that they are not aware of what is going on in the world and what has happened in the past. They could certainly make decisions if they have the right knowledge and skills, regardless of their personal job experience.
MAXIM
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He kept up with the smartass comments so i chose to start responding.
It would have been nice if someone would have stopped it to begin with.
If you're checking threads you'll see that i told him about it like 3 times.
He kept up with the smartass comments so i chose to start responding.
It would have been nice if someone would have stopped it to begin with.
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Just to clarify, is that like the EOG version of double secret probation?
Just to clarify, is that like the EOG version of double secret probation?
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A Notre Dame education obviously isn't what it used to be.
A Notre Dame education obviously isn't what it used to be.
MAXIM
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and her state is bordered by two foreign countries which means she has more foreign policy experience than the democrat's candidate
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and her state is bordered by two foreign countries which means she has more foreign policy experience than the democrat's candidate
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:LMAO :LMAO :LMAO
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No reply from the Obamaites on this -- They know.
No reply from the Obamaites on this -- They know.
MAXIM
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Here you go - enjoy the read - don't deny the documented FACTS
President Clinton and Vice President Gore's Economic Plan:
Building the Path to Prosperity for America's Families
August 5, 2000
Seven years ago this week (1993) , President Clinton and Vice President Gore's economic plan was enacted without a single Republican vote. Vice President Gore broke a tie on August 6, 1993 to pass the measure in the Senate and President Clinton signed the 1993 Budget Reconciliation into law four days later. Their bold, three-part strategy established fiscal discipline; invested in education, health care, science and technology; and opened foreign markets so that American workers have a fair chance to compete abroad. Passage of the economic plan was a historic turning point, reversing 12 years of trickle-down economics and turning the largest deficit in history into the largest budget surplus in history. It also committed the country to a path of fiscal discipline that helped unleash the productive potential of the American people, contributing to the longest economic expansion in history, including the creation of over 22 million jobs, the lowest unemployment and inflation rates in a generation, rising wages and the highest homeownership rates on record. Today in (2000), working families are enjoying the benefits of this comprehensive plan and the course of fiscal discipline it established.
http://www.ed.gov/PressReleases/08-2000/wh-0805.html
Here you go - enjoy the read - don't deny the documented FACTS
President Clinton and Vice President Gore's Economic Plan:
Building the Path to Prosperity for America's Families
August 5, 2000
Seven years ago this week (1993) , President Clinton and Vice President Gore's economic plan was enacted without a single Republican vote. Vice President Gore broke a tie on August 6, 1993 to pass the measure in the Senate and President Clinton signed the 1993 Budget Reconciliation into law four days later. Their bold, three-part strategy established fiscal discipline; invested in education, health care, science and technology; and opened foreign markets so that American workers have a fair chance to compete abroad. Passage of the economic plan was a historic turning point, reversing 12 years of trickle-down economics and turning the largest deficit in history into the largest budget surplus in history. It also committed the country to a path of fiscal discipline that helped unleash the productive potential of the American people, contributing to the longest economic expansion in history, including the creation of over 22 million jobs, the lowest unemployment and inflation rates in a generation, rising wages and the highest homeownership rates on record. Today in (2000), working families are enjoying the benefits of this comprehensive plan and the course of fiscal discipline it established.
Clinton-Gore Economic Plan Restored Fiscal Discipline
The previous two administrations drove annual budget deficits to their highest level in history, piled up more debt in 12 years than the nation did in the previous 200, and quadrupled the national debt. Thanks to the 1993 economic plan, President Clinton and Vice President Gore kept their promise to cut the deficit in half in four years and produced three back-to-back surpluses for the first time in over 50 years. Fiscal discipline has resulted in real benefits for American families by keeping interest rates low and productivity high, and by creating the conditions for the strongest economy in our nation's history.http://www.ed.gov/PressReleases/08-2000/wh-0805.html
MAXIM
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Add this to your list of reading material, don't argue what you don't know.
http://pearlyabraham.tripod.com/htmls/bill-legacy2.html
Add this to your list of reading material, don't argue what you don't know.
http://pearlyabraham.tripod.com/htmls/bill-legacy2.html
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You have been beautifully trapped !!! Most of those 25 million new jobs were created by the technology revolution led by the internet. Your boys had absolutely nothing to do with it.
The set up here was perfect --Thanks for taking the bait.
You have been beautifully trapped !!! Most of those 25 million new jobs were created by the technology revolution led by the internet. Your boys had absolutely nothing to do with it.
The set up here was perfect --Thanks for taking the bait.
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OOOPPPPSSSS !!! I'm sorry - I should have give credit to Al Gore for inventing the internet which caused this whole technology revolution to go forward. My bad.
OOOPPPPSSSS !!! I'm sorry - I should have give credit to Al Gore for inventing the internet which caused this whole technology revolution to go forward. My bad.
MAXIM
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You just made yourself look like the biggest dumbfuck the internet has ever seen.
If not for all of this http://www.ed.gov/PressReleases/08-2000/wh-0805.html
none of it was possible. Clintons economic plan ensured the employment of millions.
If not for his economic plan being enacted (without a single republican vote)
there couldn't have been a revolution of any kind to create those millions of jobs.
I don't need to set you up, you do a fine job of proving your ignorance on your own.
:LMAO :LMAO :LMAO
If that was your big brilliant plan, then you actually failed it miserably.
You just made yourself look like the biggest dumbfuck the internet has ever seen.
Your ignorance is quite astounding, you've surpassed the stupidity bar.
If not for all of this http://www.ed.gov/PressReleases/08-2000/wh-0805.html
none of it was possible. Clintons economic plan ensured the employment of millions.
If not for his economic plan being enacted (without a single republican vote)
there couldn't have been a revolution of any kind to create those millions of jobs.
I don't need to set you up, you do a fine job of proving your ignorance on your own.
:LMAO :LMAO :LMAO
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Gettin a little defensive , are we ??????
Did I see Bill and Al hiring all those people in all those corporations after Al invented the interenet ? Nice try -- better luck next time.
:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
Gettin a little defensive , are we ??????
Did I see Bill and Al hiring all those people in all those corporations after Al invented the interenet ? Nice try -- better luck next time.
:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
MAXIM
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[how does it feel to trap yourself in your own trap?] :LMAO :LMAO :LMAO
Your kindergarten thought process doesn't serve you well at all.
[how does it feel to trap yourself in your own trap?] :LMAO :LMAO :LMAO
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obama just doesn't have the experience to be president..plain and simple...his lack of any concrete plans to deal with issues facing America today, along with his short 130 day service record, show that he has no clue what he's doing....all of this "change" rhetoric isn't going to cut it when faced with nuclear seeking iranians
obama just doesn't have the experience to be president..plain and simple...his lack of any concrete plans to deal with issues facing America today, along with his short 130 day service record, show that he has no clue what he's doing....all of this "change" rhetoric isn't going to cut it when faced with nuclear seeking iranians