British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airliners i

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By CHARLOTTE GILL and SAM GREENHILL - More by this author ? Last updated at 00:55am on 4th April 2008 A gang of British Muslims planned to blow up seven planes within hours in the biggest terrorist atrocity since 9/11, a court heard yesterday.
Two thousand passengers would have died in the plot by eight fanatics working "in the name of Islam", the jury was told.
It could have involved up to 18 suicide bombers. And they were almost ready to strike.
The jets they targeted would all have been bound from Heathrow to cities in the U.S. and Canada, it was claimed.
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Accused: Waheed Zaman, 23 and Abdulla Ahmed Ali, 27


Once the first had exploded the authorities would have had to watch, powerless, as the six others were downed.
Plastic soft-drink bottles were to be the murder weapon - filled with explosive and connected to a detonator.
The alleged plot led to a ban on liquid containers bigger than 100ml which is still in force at UK airports.
Had it been successful, the death toll would have far eclipsed the 52 killed on July 7, 2005, when four suicide bombers detonated their rucksacks on the London transport system.
And if the conspirators chose to blow themselves up over land, the number of casualties in the air and on the ground could have exceeded the Twin Towers attacks in which nearly 3,000 died.
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Accused: Tanvir Hussain, 27, and Arafat Khan, 26

Accused: Ibrahim Savant:, 27, and Assad Sarwar, 27

Yesterday eight men went on trial at Woolwich Crown Court in South-East London accused of conspiracy to murder and conspiracy to commit an act of violence likely to endanger the safety of an aircraft.
Peter Wright QC, prosecuting, said: "What these men intended was a violent and deadly statement of intent which would have a truly global impact.
"These men were actively engaged in a deadly plan designed to bring about what would have been, had they been successful, a civilian death toll from an act of terrorism on an almost unprecedented scale.
"If each of these aircraft was successfully blown up the potential for loss of life was indeed considerable.
"And there would be little if any chance of saving any of them from their impending disaster.
"For when the mid-flight explosions began the authorities would be unable to prevent the other flights from meeting a similar fate as they would already be in mid air and carrying their deadly cargo."
He described the defendants as having the "cold-eyed certainty of the fanatic".
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Accused: Umar Islam, 29, and Mohammed Gulzar, 26

The alleged plot was foiled on August 9, 2006 when two of the key gang members - Abdulla Ahmed Ali and Assad Sarwar - were arrested by police in a town hall car park in Walthamstow, East London following several months of surveillance.
A series of arrests followed including that of Mohammed Gulzar, 26, the alleged third key member of the plot, and led to chaos, cancellation and delays at airports across the UK as a huge security crackdown swung into operation.
The court heard that at the time of the arrests, the bombers were "almost ready to put their plot into practice".
Police found a USB computer memory stick in Ali's pocket which held information on flight timetables and security advice on restricted items for hand luggage and other information about Heathrow Airport.
All the flight details saved on the stick were for outbound flights only and not return trips.

It listed United Airlines, Air Canada and American Airlines flights to Toronto, Montreal, San Francisco, Washington and New York, all leaving from Terminal 3 at Heathrow.
The planes targeted were 777, 767 and 763 jets which could carry between 241 and 285 passengers. All the scheduled flights left Heathrow within little more than two and a half hours of each other between 2.15pm and 4.50pm.
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Terror: Prosecutors said the alleged plot would have targeted seven flights operated by (left to right) American Airlines, United Airlines and Air Canada


The plotters' main interest was with flights leaving between August and October 2006.
Ali, 27, married with a young son, also had a pocket notebook in which a "blueprint" for making the bombs and carrying out the plot was written.
Plastic Oasis and Lucozade bottles were to be used by the plotters to make their liquid bombs.
A hypodermic syringe would be inserted into the base to draw out the drink and the bomb mixture would be injected in its place.
A homemade detonator called hexamethylene triperoxide and also known as HMTD would be made from a mixture of household and commercial ingredients and disguised in AA batteries.

Bulbs and wires would connect the bomb mixture with disposable cameras to trigger a charge to set it off.
Of Ali and Sarwar, Mr Wright said: "They shared a common interest.
"It was an interest in which they were actively engaged at the time of their arrest, an interest that involved inflicting heavy casualties upon an unwitting civilian population, all in the name of Islam.
"The means by which they intended to inflict heavy casualties upon ordinary civilians was by the carrying out of a series of coordinated and deadly explosions.
"These men were, we say, indifferent to the carnage that was likely to ensue if their plans were successful.
"To them, the identities of their victims was a complete irrelevance. It is the prosecution case that they intended to cause a series of explosions on board a selected number of transatlantic passenger aircraft.
"The devices were to be smuggled on to the aircraft and detonated in flight by a suicide bomber, a bomber prepared to lose his or her life in this way.

"Inevitably, such an event would also have fatal consequences for the various passengers and crew who happened, quite by chance, to be flying to North America on the day selected by them to commit this atrocity."
Mr Wright said the conspirators plotted to detonate seven bombs on planes leaving from Terminal 3 at Heathrow but that the "extent of their ambitions" went wider.

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In court: A gang of British Muslims are alleged to have planned to blow up jets leaving from Heathrow to destinations in the U.S. and Canada

"A coordinated strike upon the aircraft engaged in these seven flights by the onboard detonation of improvised explosive devices was capable, we say, of producing quite catastrophic consequences for passengers, crew and, indeed, anyone who happened to be in the path of a stricken or disintegrating aircraft, if it plummeted to earth over a populated part of northern Europe or North America.
"Terrifying, we say, though this concept alone may be it is the prosecution case that the conspirators did not confine themselves and did not confine their ambitions merely to the coordinated destruction in mid-flight of these seven aircraft.
"In conversation between two of the main participants, reference was made to 'different terminals', and as many as 18 suicide bombers being involved."
The accused are Abdulla Ahmed Ali, 27, Waheed Zaman, 23, Arafat Waheed Khan, 26, all from Walthamstow, East London, Ibrahim Savant, 27, from Stoke Newington, North London, Mohammed Gulzar, 26, from Barking, East London, Assad Sarwar, 27, from High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, Tanvir Hussain, 27, from Leyton, East London and Umar Islam, 29, from Plaistow, East London.
All deny the charges. The case continues.


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'Condoms and porn' in luggage

A bomb plot "blueprint" scrawled in a diary was seized by police from one of the alleged masterminds, the jury heard.
It set out in chilling detail how mid-air carnage was to be achieved using everyday objects.
And it revealed that the fanatics hoped to hoodwink airport security officers by putting pornographic magazines and condoms in their hand luggage to indicate that they could not be Muslim zealots, the court was told.
Anti-terror police were said to have found the recipe for mass murder in an address book diary belonging to Abdulla Ahmed Ali, one of the alleged ringleaders of the plot.
It revealed plans for the gang to hold a summit five days before their deadly mission, the court heard.
Scribbles seemed to suggest that the gang would each take two bottles of their liquid bombs through security in case one was taken off them.
Ali wrote: "One drink use, other keep in pocket, maybe will not get through."
There were also rambling references to bomb ingredients and how to mix them.
Jury members were shown pages from the diary in which Ali apparently wrote about disguising hydrogen peroxide ('HP') with food dye to make it look like Lucozade.
He wrote: "Lucozade red 1.5 drops", and "Check time taken to dilute in HP".
In an apparent reference to a detonator, Ali allegedly wrote in his diary: "Decide on which battery to use for D, small is best", and "Keys and chewing gum on the D in the electronic device."
Elsewhere, seemingly planning a final meeting with his co-conspirators, he wrote: "Select date, five days B4. All link up."
The diary apparently tells how security staff would be fooled by "dirty mags" and condoms in the gang's hand luggage, the court heard.
A scrawl in Ali's diary said simply: "Prepare dirty mag to distract, condom."
Prosecutor Peter Wright QC said Ali "chose to lie" and said he could not remember when police asked him about the significance of these diary entries.
The prosecutor dubbed the entries a "blueprint" of clear significance to the plot and contained details of how it was to be carried out.
They included lists of various items which could be carried on aircraft without arousing too much attention.


From soft drinks to deadly explosives


Bombs would have been made from everyday items like soft drink bottles and batteries

The bottles and disposable camera batteries, the jury heard.
Liquid explosives disguised with food colouring and mouthwash would be smuggled past security and on to the flights.
There they would be hooked up to homemade detonators powered by tiny camera batteries and set off to cause mid-air carnage, the court heard.
After the alleged plot was uncovered, in August 2006, the authorities banned passengers from carrying most liquids on board aircraft.
The main ingredient of the homemade bombs was said to be hydrogen peroxide, commonly used as hair bleach and easily available on the high street, mixed with other chemicals which the Daily Mail is not naming.
The plan was to drill small holes in the bottom of 500ml plastic bottles of Oasis and Lucozade and pour away the drinks, the jury heard.
Then the conspirators would use a syringe to inject the ready-mixed explosive liquid into the bottles. Prosecutor Peter Wright QC said the hole would be closed with glue to give the appearance of a "factory sealed" bottle.
Once on board the aircraft, the improvised bombs would be hooked up to a detonator disguised as a standard AA 1.5-volt battery, containing a substance known as HMTD - produced from a mixture of household and commercial ingredients which are freely available.
The detonator would be ignited using metal wire, a small bulb or the flash from a disposal camera, said Mr Wright.
He said improvised bombs using similar ingredients had been used in other terrorist attacks.







British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airliners in one go' | the Daily Mail
 
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There is no Al Quaidea -- That was all made up bull shit-- Haven't you heard? There are no threats to the USA or their allies -- Haven't you heard ?? Why are you engaging in scare mongering trying to frighten the American people when none of these threats exist ?

blah blah blah blah blah -- BTW -- When do we get to fuck up some more radical Muslims ?
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
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No virgins for them - although their cellmates may disagree.

seriously though, when are people gonna wise up a realize that the mosques are full of this kind of scum?
 
Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

There is no Al Quaidea -- That was all made up bull shit-- Haven't you heard? There are no threats to the USA or their allies -- Haven't you heard ?? Why are you engaging in scare mongering trying to frighten the American people when none of these threats exist ?

haha..exactly...and I bet "questionable interrogation techniques" were used...give me a fucking break

would you liberals be in favor of torture if it was what helped gain information to stop this planned attack?
 

Thor4140

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Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

No virgins for them - although their cellmates may disagree.

seriously though, when are people gonna wise up a realize that the mosques are full of this kind of scum?


could you imagine if they were occupying us how many of us would be called scum? Get off their land and all this shit would be resolved and that goes for Israel also.
 

CapperJed

EOG Senior Member
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The amazing thing is that our technology and security apparatus has been so good that nothing like 9-11 since 9-11. These motherfuckcers, and they're lots of 'em raised on hate and brainswashed, got lucky once, but no more.
 

texansfan

EOG Master
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Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim it seems.
 
Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim it seems.

Timothy McVeigh was a Christian... If I'm not mistaken.
 

dirty

EOG Master
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Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

Get off their land and all this shit would be resolved


:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO


God Damn I was in a bad mood

:+textinb3:+textinb3:+textinb3:+textinb3:+textinb3
 

CapperJed

EOG Senior Member
Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

could you imagine if they were occupying us how many of us would be called scum? Get off their land and all this shit would be resolved and that goes for Israel also.

At the risk of unleashing an avalanche of Jihadist spin, you need a history lesson. Israel was Judea long before the Muslim faith was even founded and wanting to wipe out the remnants of European Jews after Hitler who had no where to go is pretty fucking far from gracious. How many Jews are even in Israel as compared to Arabs in the surrounding nations? But grace, compassion, and understanding don't go far with pyschopaths who suicide bomb innocent people (including their own) as part of some "heroic" Jihadist strategy. They knew the inferno awaiting 3,000 innocent people on 9-11 and they celebrate it like hysterical, wild dogs.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
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It will be interesting to see how the next attack will be handled if (god forbid) obama is elected, after all he wants to friends with, and "listen" to our enemies.
 

texansfan

EOG Master
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Timothy McVeigh was a Christian... If I'm not mistaken.

Add them up. I'm betting well into the upper 90's that all terrorists are Muslim. Hell, the Unabomber wasn't Muslim either. Let's try and focus on the last 10 years or so and tell me what you come up with.
 

CapperJed

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It will be interesting to see how the next attack will be handled if (god forbid) obama is elected, after all he wants to friends with, and "listen" to our enemies.

Obama's cool. You should chill out.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
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Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

Obama's cool. You should chill out.
Do you think the enemies of america respect kindness and understanding? or would they laugh at our weakness?
 
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How dare anyone in this place say anything bad about a muslim.Hell I thought i was on the verge of being banned from posting something negative about a muslim.
 
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I have to say, that after reading the replies to this thread, I'm dazed and confused, you people are all over the place with your opinions.
 

Thor4140

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:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO


God Damn I was in a bad mood

:+textinb3:+textinb3:+textinb3:+textinb3:+textinb3


Oh i forgot they are attacking us because of our freedoms.:+clueless You might want to read what Bin Laden said before 9/11. Our presence and polices on their land is causing all of this shit and if you think it is something else you need to stop smoking the dope.
 

Thor4140

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Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

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At the risk of unleashing an avalanche of Jihadist spin, you need a history lesson. Israel was Judea long before the Muslim faith was even founded and wanting to wipe out the remnants of European Jews after Hitler who had no where to go is pretty fucking far from gracious. How many Jews are even in Israel as compared to Arabs in the surrounding nations? But grace, compassion, and understanding don't go far with pyschopaths who suicide bomb innocent people (including their own) as part of some "heroic" Jihadist strategy. They knew the inferno awaiting 3,000 innocent people on 9-11 and they celebrate it like hysterical, wild dogs.
Here is your history lesson without spin.
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</dt>Shaker Abdul-Fattah is a Palestinian refugee who still holds the titles to his orange orchards. Both his parents died in the Diaspora. They never saw their home again. When asked, what is a Palestinian, he answered: "A Palestinian is a person whose forefathers lived in Palestine for thousands of years. A Palestinian owned the land. He cultivated and loved his land. His ancestors are buried there. His history and heritage dwells there.

No one lived in Palestine more than the Palestinians did. No one loves the land more than the Palestinians do. A Palestinian sacrifices his life for his country. The one who wants to know more can study the history of Palestine. Palestinians are incredibly strong like Samson. They grow from the ground like their trees. They will never disappear. One day the Jews will all flee Palestine and some of them already have." One of the schemes of the early Zionists was to make Palestine look like a land without a people for a people without a land. Today, part of Zionist propaganda is the rewriting of history and to make it look like there is no such thing as a Palestinian.
But Palestine has always been populated from the beginning of man's sojourn on this earth. Palestinians are descended from the ancient Canaanites and Philistines. In the 3rd millennium BC, the Canaanites became urbanized and lived in city-states, one of which was Jericho. Later on, the Philistines established an independent state on the southern coast of Palestine and controlled a number of towns in the north and the east. Because they were superior in military organization and were skilled in using iron weapons, they drastically defeated the Hebrew people around 1050 BC who had either migrated to the area or been led out of Egypt by the Prophet Moses.
Palestine, regardless of the empires that have swept through it, has always been Palestinian. The indigenous people remained on the land and blended with the people of the occupying powers. The name of Palestine is derived from the Philistines.
The Muslim conquest began 1300 years of Islamic rule. Palestine was holy to the Muslims because God had designated Jerusalem to be the first Qibla or the direction that Muslims face when praying and also because Prophet Mohammed ascended on a night journey to heaven from where the Dome of the Rock was later built. The Muslim rulers did not force their religion on the Palestinians and this is why more than 100 years passed before the majority of them converted to Islam. The remaining Christians and Jews were considered to be the "People of the Book," so they were allowed to retain autonomous control of their communities. They were guaranteed protection and they were free to worship as they pleased. Such religious tolerance has been rare in the history of religion. Most of the Palestinians adopted Arabic and Islamic culture.
During the height of the Islamic empire, Palestine shared a golden age of science, philosophy, art and literature. It was the Muslims who preserved Greek learning and excelled in many fields. Such mastering of the sciences led to the Renaissance in Europe.
Hebrew rule in Palestine was intermittent. In 63 BC Pompey stormed Jerusalem and in AD 135, the Romans put an end to Jewish Palestine by destroying Jerusalem. From this time, the Jewish community in Palestine almost ceased to exist. When the Christian Crusaders captured Jerusalem in 1099, they burned the Jews in their synagogue. It was only when Saladin the Muslim conqueror retook the city in 1187, that Jews were allowed to return.
The first Jews to return came from Spain in 1492 as a result of the Spanish Inquisition under Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand. Until this time, the Jews had lived peacefully under Muslim rule in Spain. In 1845, there were only 12,000 Jews in Palestine out of a population of about 350,000 and in 1922, the Jews made up only a little more than one tenth of the population of Palestine.
The Zionists claim that Palestine is historically theirs and that this historic right provides the justification for the state of Israel. When the state of Israel was proclaimed in 1948 it was allegedly because "by virtue of the natural and historic right of the Jewish people." One of the bases for Zionist claims to Palestine is the extent of the Kingdom of David and Solomon, which lasted for only 73 years. Much of the land that the Zionists claim as exclusively theirs has been predominantly populated by Jews for less than one percent of its history.
In 1948, the famous writer H.G. Wells wrote about this false historical claim as, "If it is proper to 'reconstitute' a Jewish state which has not existed for two thousand years, why not go back another thousand years and reconstitute the Canaanite state. The Canaanites, unlike the Jews are still there." Joseph Farah, the Zionist CEO of World Net claims that Palestinians are "whatever Yasser Arafat wants them to be." But this is like saying Americans are whatever George Bush wants them to be. Whether Bush is in power or not, an American is still an American and regardless of who Arafat is or is not, if he is in power or not, a Palestinian was and is a Palestinian. A rose by any other name is still a rose.
Farah also claims that there hardly ever were any Palestinians and that most of the Arabs within Palestine are those who flocked there because of business incentives or the prospects of a better living. What is happening in Palestine right now is ample proof that no one would choose to "flock" to Palestine when life is so much easier elsewhere.
On the contrary, it is the Jews who flocked to Palestine from the late 1800s up to the present time. These Jews have no historical claim to the land that is not theirs. Yet they continue their aggression against the Palestinian civilians with the hopes that they will either kill them off or drive them out.
Since Jews are no longer a race of people, but a people who follow Judaism, the idea of ingathering Jews from all over the world to live in Palestine is ludicrous to say the least. A Jew coming from the Bronx or from Russia has no valid claim to Palestine, yet, any Jew who wishes to live in Palestine is free to do so while the native population is either forced to live outside in the Diaspora or inside under constant bombardment.
What is a Palestinian? A Palestinian is the original inhabitant of his land and country. His forefathers lived and died on this consecrated soil. Palestine lives in every Palestinian heart and mind and like their trees, Palestinians grow from the ground.
They are resolute, they are strong and their courage is a wondrous example for all men wishing to be free.
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dirty

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Oh i forgot they are attacking us because of our freedoms.:+clueless You might want to read what Bin Laden said before 9/11. Our presence and polices on their land is causing all of this shit and if you think it is something else you need to stop smoking the dope.


Your posts get less intelligent by the day.... anyone with a brain can't respond to you....

I am glad all the Muslim attacks against the US and it's allies and countries like Israel and others only started when we Invaded Iraq after the 9/11 attacks.... All my years of studying History in the world and watching and reading about attacks before then were all just fairy tales and came from Comic Books....Thanks for clearing that up... I don't know what this world would do without people like you :cheers:cheers:cheers We would never be able to Function.... No one in this world is wrong but you in sports, politics, and about anything else you do... You are the perfect Human....Congratulations :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

And Bin Laden had excuses before we invaded Iraq and it had nothing to do with invading their land... How is it in Never Never Land... Tell Hook, Pan and the Lost Boys I said Hello :+waving-5 :+waving-5 :+waving-5 :cheers
 

scrimmage

What you contemplate you imitate
Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airliners i

The amazing thing is that our technology and security apparatus has been so good that nothing like 9-11 since 9-11. These motherfuckcers, and they're lots of 'em raised on hate and brainswashed, got lucky once, but no more.



The 9/11 mf'ers got lucky because they were steered in the direction,and handled second hand by elements in,or connected to the US government to the intended targets.
Similarly the 8 yo-yos in the UK were kept under constant monitoring throughout their escapade,and the mission was aborted before any harm could be done since they are useful propaganda tools now,and that's all that was intended.
With big "security"budgets agencies in the US/UK have to come up with results occasionally and since there are very few acts of spontaneous terrorism,the pot needs to be stirred.
Infiltrators and informants attempt to bait gullible members of Muslim and other groups into participating in grandiose schemes,and there are always patsies,dupes,and useful idiots that get hooked.
Scary scenarios,and faces are paraded in front of the public to keep them agreeable to a constant "war on terror",and a suspension of civil liberties,all claimed to be done in the interests of a "security" which is never quite attained.

Lets look at 1 part of the British plot,how much damge would a soda bottle-hydrogen peroxide liquid bomb actually cause:

"One needs quality stuff to commit "mass murder on an unimaginable scale," as Deputy Police Commissioner Paul Stephenson put it," wrote the Reg.

"While it's true that a slapdash [peroxide bomb] concoction will explode, it's unlikely to do more than blow out a few windows. At best, an infidel or two might be killed by the blast, and one or two others by flying debris as the cabin suddenly depressurizes, but that's about all you're likely to manage under the most favorable conditions possible . . . We believe this because a peer-reviewed 2004 study in the Journal of the American Chemical Society (JACS) entitled 'Decomposition of Triacetone Triperoxide is an Entropic Explosion' tells us that the explosive force of TATP comes from the sudden decomposition of a solid into gasses.

"So, assuming that the homebrew variety of TATP is highly sensitive and unstable - or at least that our inept jihadists would believe that - to avoid getting blown up in the taxi on the way to the airport, one might, if one were educated in terror tactics primarily by hollywood movies, prefer simply to dump the precursors into an airplane toilet bowl and let the mother of Satan work her magic. Indeed, the mixture will heat rapidly as TATP begins to form, and it will soon explode. But this won't happen with much force, because little TATP will have formed by the time the explosion occurs."

"We asked University of Rhode Island Chemistry Professor Jimmie C. Oxley, who has actual, practical experience with TATP, if this is a reasonable assumption, and she tolds us that merely dumping the precursors together would create 'a violent reaction,' but not a detonation . . . So the fabled binary liquid explosive - that is, the sudden mixing of hydrogen peroxide and acetone with sulfuric acid to create a plane-killing explosion, is out of the question. . ."

You can read the rest here.
source:
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Thor4140

EOG Dedicated
Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

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Your posts get less intelligent by the day.... anyone with a brain can't respond to you....

I am glad all the Muslim attacks against the US and it's allies and countries like Israel and others only started when we Invaded Iraq after the 9/11 attacks.... All my years of studying History in the world and watching and reading about attacks before then were all just fairy tales and came from Comic Books....Thanks for clearing that up... I don't know what this world would do without people like you :cheers:cheers:cheers We would never be able to Function.... No one in this world is wrong but you in sports, politics, and about anything else you do... You are the perfect Human....Congratulations :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

And Bin Laden had excuses before we invaded Iraq and it had nothing to do with invading their land... How is it in Never Never Land... Tell Hook, Pan and the Lost Boys I said Hello :+waving-5 :+waving-5 :+waving-5 :cheers

This all started know it all because of us being on their land. (I didn't say anything about this being started because we are in Iraq) Is Pat Buchanan rightwing enough for you because he like most people who don't have a brain made out of playdo know this. sorry but yours can be shape anyway a neocon wants it that day. Nobody likes to admit they are being scammed and dirty you are to stupid to realize you are being scammed.
 

dirty

EOG Master
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Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

This all started know it all because of us being on their land. (I didn't say anything about this being started because we are in Iraq) Is Pat Buchanan rightwing enough for you because he like most people who don't have a brain made out of playdo know this. sorry but yours can be shape anyway a neocon wants it that day. Nobody likes to admit they are being scammed and dirty you are to stupid to realize you are being scammed.


how do you respond to a post that is Neither coherent or has any logical meaning or thought to it :+clueless:+clueless:+clueless
 
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Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

It is true, the root of all the problems in the middle east started with the colonization of Palestine, prior to that event, the middle east was somewhat stable, the first terrorist groups were Zionist groups, Stern Gang and Irgun were two of the first, there were no Arabic terrorist at time, Arabs terrorist learned their lessons from the Zionists, and took many years to evolve. Since the U.S. backs the Zionists, and sends them aid in the form of weapons and cash, they to are seen as the enemy. I'm not sure what you think is at the core of the present wave of terrorism, but its roots are well documented.

Lehi (IPA: ['lɛxi], Hebrew acronym for Lohamei Herut Israel, "Fighters for the Freedom of Israel", לח"י - לוחמי חירות ישראל), also known as the Stern Gang, was an armed underground Zionist faction in Mandatory Palestine that had as its goal the eviction of the British authorities from Palestine to allow unrestricted immigration of Jews and the formation of a Jewish state. Although the name of the group became "Lehi" only after the death of its founder, Avraham Stern, this article follows the common practice of referring to it by that name throughout its history.
Lehi was described as a terrorist organisation<sup id="cite_ref-0" class="reference">[1]</sup> by the British authorities, the mainstream Yishuv, and by the United Nations mediator Ralph Bunche.<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference">[2]</sup> Lehi was responsible for the assassination of Lord Moyne and other attacks on the British authorities. Jews were sometimes killed in these attacks, and occasionally targeted for assassination. Israel has honored the group by instituting the military decoration of the Lehi ribbon, which may be worn by the organization's former members. (source; Wiki)




Irgun (Hebrew: ארגון‎; shorthand for Ha'Irgun Ha'Tsvai Ha'Leumi B'Eretz Yisrael, הארגון הצבאי הלאומי בארץ ישראל, "National Military Organization in the Land of Israel") was a militant Zionist group that operated in Palestine between 1931 and 1948. It was established as a militant offshoot of the earlier and larger Jewish paramilitary organization Haganah (Hebrew: "The Defense", ההגנה). For secrecy reasons, people often referred to the Irgun, during that time, as Haganah Bet (Hebrew: literally "Defense 'B' " or "Second Defense", or alternatively as הגנה ב), Haganah Ha'leumit (ההגנה הלאומית) or Ha'ma'amad (המעמד). In present day, Israel, Irgun is commonly referred to as Etzel (אצ"ל), an acronym of the Hebrew initials.
The Irgun was the armed expression of the nascent ideology of Revisionist Zionism founded by Ze'ev Jabotinsky. He expressed this ideology as "every Jew had the right to enter Palestine; only active retaliation would deter the Arabs and the British; only Jewish armed force would ensure the Jewish state".<sup id="cite_ref-0" class="reference">[1]</sup> Initially, a central part of their efforts included attacks against Palestinian Arabs,<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference">[2]</sup> but it increasingly shifted to attacks against the British. Some of the better-known and more infamous attacks by Irgun were the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946 and the Deir Yassin massacre (perpetrated together with the Stern Gang) on 9 April 1948. In the West, Irgun was described as a terrorist organization by The New York Times newspaper,<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference">[3]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">[4]</sup> and by the Anglo-American Committee of Enquiry.<sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference">[5]</sup> Irgun attacks prompted a formal declaration from the World Zionist Congress in 1946, which strongly condemned "the shedding of innocent blood as a means of political warfare".<sup id="cite_ref-5" class="reference">[6] (source Wiki)
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dirty

EOG Master
Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

It is true, the root of all the problems in the middle east started with the colonization of Palestine, prior to that event, the middle east was somewhat stable, the first terrorist groups were Zionist groups, Stern Gang and Irgun were two of the first, there were no Arabic terrorist at time, Arabs terrorist learned their lessons from the Zionists, and took many years to evolve. Since the U.S. backs the Zionists, and sends them aid in the form of weapons and cash, they to are seen as the enemy. I'm not sure what you think is at the core of the present wave of terrorism, but its roots are well documented.

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Don't tell Thor "Mr Perfect" that... this all started when we Occupied their land after 9/11....all this has happened in the last 6-7 years... everything else was just a Fairy tale :cheers:cheers:cheers
 

CapperJed

EOG Senior Member
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Man this forum went crazy. It's not just Bush who can dole out the spin, distortions, and fabrications as we can see from all these Jihadist clowns and their crap posts. Bunch of fuckers here it turns out.
 
Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

Timothy McVeigh was a Christian... If I'm not mistaken.

WOW -- Impressive -- He found one exception out of millions -- Pretty impressive. :LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
 
Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

Man this forum went crazy. It's not just Bush who can dole out the spin, distortions, and fabrications as we can see from all these Jihadist clowns and their crap posts. Bunch of fuckers here it turns out.

What part is not truthful? Which part don't you like?
 

Thor4140

EOG Dedicated
Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

how do you respond to a post that is Neither coherent or has any logical meaning or thought to it :+clueless:+clueless:+clueless


You threw out the first insults genius so tell me why were we attacked? You seem to have all the answers. Enlighten me.
 

Thor4140

EOG Dedicated
Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

Don't tell Thor "Mr Perfect" that... this all started when we Occupied their land after 9/11....all this has happened in the last 6-7 years... everything else was just a Fairy tale :cheers:cheers:cheers


All i strive for is the truth and since it is not a big part of your life what can i do? Again nobody said anything about this all starting after occupying Iraq. In 83 when Regan cut and run when 241 servicemen were killed in Lebanon this had nothing to do with our freedoms and everything to do with being on there land. Again us on their land. At least Reagan was smart enough to know this was a problem but when you are greedy like the guys you vote for, they simply don't give a dick about their citizens.
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

All i strive for is the truth and since it is not a big part of your life what can i do? Again nobody said anything about this all starting after occupying Iraq. In 83 when Regan cut and run when 241 servicemen were killed in Lebanon this had nothing to do with our freedoms and everything to do with being on there land. Again us on their land. At least Reagan was smart enough to know this was a problem but when you are greedy like the guys you vote for, they simply don't give a dick about their citizens.


In your Warped world "Mr. Perfect"... the truth is only if you agree with it. If you do not then it is fabricated lies and nonsense.. and again you go spewing your mouth about me when you have no clue who I have voted for or anything.... Must be great to be a soothsaying Swami as well... Boy How I wished I was Thor... Can you please shake my hand so I can proclaim to the world I was in such a great person's presence? :+clueless
 
Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

"Al Queda is a complete fabrication"

:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
 

Thor4140

EOG Dedicated
Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

Re: British Muslims 'planned to kill thousands by bombing SEVEN transatlantic airline

In your Warped world "Mr. Perfect"... the truth is only if you agree with it. If you do not then it is fabricated lies and nonsense.. and again you go spewing your mouth about me when you have no clue who I have voted for or anything.... Must be great to be a soothsaying Swami as well... Boy How I wished I was Thor... Can you please shake my hand so I can proclaim to the world I was in such a great person's presence? :+clueless

I didn't quite see where you stated why we were attacked? Its easy to attack the messenger but how about attacking the message?
 
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