Why do major books insult our intelligence?

WildBill

WildBill

2
Check this out from Bookmaker (CRIS). Please guys, I know a Pats win might be a risk to you, but this borders on being insulting. Offering a bad value is one thing, but offering something that is completely stupid is another.

<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><thead><tr><td colspan="100">ODDS TO WIN THE AFC 2007

</td></tr><tr><td class="gNum">#</td><td class="gName">
</td><td class="gML">Money Line</td></tr></thead><tbody><tr class="game_even"><td class="gNum">16004</td><td class="gName">PITTSBURGH STEELERS</td><td class="gML lineChk"><input name="game" value="630250_0_16004_0_1800_TNT" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+1800</td></tr><tr class="game_even"><td class="gNum">16006</td><td class="gName">INDIANAPOLIS COLTS</td><td class="gML lineChk"><input name="game" value="630250_0_16006_0_290_TNT" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+290</td></tr><tr class="game_odd"><td class="gNum">16007</td><td class="gName">JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS</td><td class="gML lineChk"><input name="game" value="630250_0_16007_0_1400_TNT" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+1400</td></tr><tr class="game_even"><td class="gNum">16008</td><td class="gName">TENNESSEE TITANS</td><td class="gML lineChk"><input name="game" value="630250_0_16008_0_3500_TNT" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+3500</td></tr><tr class="game_odd"><td class="gNum">16011</td><td class="gName">NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS</td><td class="gML lineChk"><input name="game" value="630250_0_16011_0_-220_TNT" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">-220</td></tr><tr class="game_even"><td class="gNum">16016</td><td class="gName">SAN DIEGO CHARGERS</td><td class="gML lineChk"><input name="game" value="630250_0_16016_0_1400_TNT" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+1400</td></tr></tbody></table>
<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><thead><tr><td colspan="100">ODDS TO WIN THE SUPERBOWL XLII

</td></tr><tr><td class="gNum">#</td><td class="gName">
</td><td class="gML">Money Line</td></tr></thead><tbody><tr class="game_odd"><td class="gNum">16158</td><td class="gName">DALLAS COWBOYS</td><td class="gML lineChk"><input name="game" value="630260_0_16158_0_620_TNT" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+620</td></tr><tr class="game_even"><td class="gNum">16161</td><td class="gName">GREEN BAY PACKERS</td><td class="gML lineChk"><input name="game" value="630260_0_16161_0_1250_TNT" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+1250</td></tr><tr class="game_even"><td class="gNum">16163</td><td class="gName">INDIANAPOLIS COLTS</td><td class="gML lineChk"><input name="game" value="630260_0_16163_0_495_TNT" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+495</td></tr><tr class="game_odd"><td class="gNum">16164</td><td class="gName">JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS</td><td class="gML lineChk"><input name="game" value="630260_0_16164_0_2200_TNT" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+2200</td></tr><tr class="game_odd"><td class="gNum">16168</td><td class="gName">NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS</td><td class="gML lineChk"><input name="game" value="630260_0_16168_0_-240_TNT" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">-240</td></tr><tr class="game_odd"><td class="gNum">16170</td><td class="gName">NEW YORK GIANTS</td><td class="gML lineChk"><input name="game" value="630260_0_16170_0_4500_TNT" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+4500</td></tr><tr class="game_odd"><td class="gNum">16174</td><td class="gName">PITTSBURGH STEELERS</td><td class="gML lineChk"><input name="game" value="630260_0_16174_0_4500_TNT" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+4500</td></tr><tr class="game_even"><td class="gNum">16175</td><td class="gName">SAN DIEGO CHARGERS</td><td class="gML lineChk"><input name="game" value="630260_0_16175_0_2200_TNT" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+2200</td></tr><tr class="game_even"><td class="gNum">16177</td><td class="gName">SEATTLE SEAHAWKS</td><td class="gML lineChk"><input name="game" value="630260_0_16177_0_4500_TNT" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+4500</td></tr><tr class="game_even"><td class="gNum">16179</td><td class="gName">TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS</td><td class="gML lineChk"><input name="game" value="630260_0_16179_0_4500_TNT" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+4500</td></tr><tr class="game_odd"><td class="gNum">16180</td><td class="gName">TENNESSEE TITANS</td><td class="gML lineChk"><input name="game" value="630260_0_16180_0_7000_TNT" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+7000</td></tr><tr class="game_even"><td class="gNum">16181</td><td class="gName">WASHINGTON REDSKINS</td><td class="gML lineChk"><input name="game" value="630260_0_16181_0_2500_TNT" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+2500</td></tr></tbody></table>
 
kinosh

kinosh

2
Re: Why do major books insult our intelligence?

sportsbook.com has the Patriots at 2-7 (-350) to win the AFC, so CRIS' line looks good (relatively speaking). If New England's line is bad, the books will get action on the other teams and move NE's line up.
 
Grand Master B

Grand Master B

2
Re: Why do major books insult our intelligence?

i believe he's talking about NE's superbowl price being higher than that of the AFC championship price.

Who in the hell would take that, even if you switched them around?
 
The General

The General

Another Day, Another Dollar
Re: Why do major books insult our intelligence?

Posted at BETONLINE August 20, 2007

<TABLE border=1><TBODY><TR><TH>ODDS TO WIN THE 2008 AFC CHAMPIONSHIP
Sun 1/20 6:00PM (EST)

<TABLE border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>1 BALTIMORE RAVENS </TD><TD> +900 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2 BUFFALO BILLS </TD><TD> +3500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>3 CINCINNATI BENGALS </TD><TD> +850 </TD></TR><TR><TD>4 CLEVELAND BROWNS </TD><TD> +4000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>5 DENVER BRONCOS </TD><TD> +900 </TD></TR><TR><TD>6 HOUSTON TEXANS </TD><TD> +4000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>7 INDIANAPOLIS COLTS </TD><TD> +400 </TD></TR><TR><TD>8 JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS </TD><TD> +1200 </TD></TR><TR><TD>9 KANSAS CITY CHIEFS </TD><TD> +2000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>10 MIAMI DOLPHINS </TD><TD> +2000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>11 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS </TD><TD> +150 </TD></TR><TR><TD>12 NEW YORK JETS </TD><TD> +1500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>13 OAKLAND RAIDERS </TD><TD> +3500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>14 PITTSBURGH STEELERS </TD><TD> +1000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>15 SAN DIEGO CHARGERS </TD><TD> +300 </TD></TR><TR><TD>16 TENNESSEE TITANS </TD><TD> +2000 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><CITE>
* Note: </CITE>​
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ODDS TO WIN NFC CHAMPIONSHIP
<TABLE border=1><TBODY><TR><TH>ODDS TO WIN THE 2008 NFC CHAMPIONSHIP
Sun 1/20 6:00PM (EST)

<TABLE border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>1 ARIZONA CARDINALS </TD><TD> +1500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2 ATLANTA FALCONS </TD><TD> +2000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>3 CAROLINA PANTHERS </TD><TD> +550 </TD></TR><TR><TD>4 CHICAGO BEARS </TD><TD> +400 </TD></TR><TR><TD>5 DALLAS COWBOYS </TD><TD> +550 </TD></TR><TR><TD>6 DETROIT LIONS </TD><TD> +4000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>7 GREEN BAY PACKERS </TD><TD> +1800 </TD></TR><TR><TD>8 MINNESOTA VIKINGS </TD><TD> +1500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>9 NEW ORLEANS SAINTS </TD><TD> +500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>10 NEW YORK GIANTS </TD><TD> +900 </TD></TR><TR><TD>11 PHILADELPHIA EAGLES </TD><TD> +475 </TD></TR><TR><TD>12 SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS </TD><TD> +700 </TD></TR><TR><TD>13 SEATTLE SEAHAWKS </TD><TD> +550 </TD></TR><TR><TD>14 ST. LOUIS RAMS </TD><TD> +1500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>15 TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS </TD><TD> +1500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>16 WASHINGTON REDSKINS </TD><TD> +1500 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><CITE>
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SUPERBOWL XLII
<TABLE border=1><TBODY><TR><TH>ODDS TO WIN SUPER BOWL XLII
Fri 8/31 8:00PM (EST)

<TABLE border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>2000 INDIANAPOLIS COLTS </TD><TD> +660 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2001 SEATTLE SEAHAWKS </TD><TD> +1600 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2002 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS </TD><TD> +280 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2003 CAROLINA PANTHERS </TD><TD> +1400 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2004 PITTSBURGH STEELERS </TD><TD> +1500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2005 DALLAS COWBOYS </TD><TD> +1100 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2006 SAN DIEGO CHARGERS </TD><TD> +500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2007 DENVER BRONCOS </TD><TD> +1200 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2008 NEW YORK GIANTS </TD><TD> +2000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2009 CHICAGO BEARS </TD><TD> +1000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2010 TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS </TD><TD> +4000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2011 CINCINNATI BENGALS </TD><TD> +1700 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2012 WASHINGTON REDSKINS </TD><TD> +4200 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2013 JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS </TD><TD> +2000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2014 KANSAS CITY CHIEFS </TD><TD> +4000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2015 ATLANTA FALCONS </TD><TD> +4000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2016 PHILADEPHIA EAGLES </TD><TD> +1200 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2017 MIAMI DOLPHINS </TD><TD> +3000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2018 MINNESOTA VIKINGS </TD><TD> +6000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2019 GREEN BAY PACKERS </TD><TD> +4000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2020 BALTIMORE RAVENS </TD><TD> +1800 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2021 CLEVELAND BROWNS </TD><TD> +6000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2022 ST LOUIS RAMS </TD><TD> +4000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2023 BUFFALO BILLS </TD><TD> +6000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2024 OAKLAND RAIDERS </TD><TD> +7500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2025 ARIZONA CARDINALS </TD><TD> +3500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2026 DETROIT LIONS </TD><TD> +9000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2027 HOUSTON TEXANS </TD><TD> +7000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2028 NEW ORLEANS SAINTS </TD><TD> +1500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2029 SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS </TD><TD> +2800 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2030 TENNESSEE TITANS </TD><TD> +4000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2031 NEW YORK JETS </TD><TD> +3000 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TH></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
Journeyman

Journeyman

EOG Master
Re: Why do major books insult our intelligence?

IF New England somehow does not make it we'd have one hell of a Super Bowl (on paper)

We still might, Dallas could give them a game... we have seen teams play with NE. Their defense is not that special at all.

They are a great team, but we have seen the Colts , Ravens, and Giants and even Philly all within a play or two of winning.
 
kinosh

kinosh

2
Re: Why do major books insult our intelligence?

Grand Master B said:
i believe he's talking about NE's superbowl price being higher than that of the AFC championship price.

Who in the hell would take that, even if you switched them around?
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Oops, sorry. Didn't see that.
 
Bucky

Bucky

EOG Dedicated
Re: Why do major books insult our intelligence?

What can you say about it? They might as well hang a sign on the website. WE DO NOT WANT ANY FUTURES BETS ON THE NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS.

That is their perogative. But, it rubs off on the integrity of their business offering a fair price to customers.

I guess they feel somewhat obligated to offer futures but there is no need to be in the business with those kind of prices.

Makes you appreciate a book that offers the YES or NO feature. Keeps them dealing an honest price.

Maybe, just maybe Bookmaker is NOT a top line book anymore???? This is not the only thing they are not competitive with. If they have turned into a sucker joint and only want bets from suckers that bet bad prices they are not a top line book! $200 for a withdrawal - stuff like that is BS.
 
Doug

Doug

2
Re: Why do major books insult our intelligence?

General : Why post prices from August ? It's not a valid comparison.

The CRIS price on AFC is actually not bad, but I don't get the SB price, and have a similar thread at RX.
 
Ball Rash

Ball Rash

2
Re: Why do major books insult our intelligence?

Posted at BETONLINE August 20, 2007

<TABLE border=1><TBODY><TR><TH>ODDS TO WIN THE 2008 AFC CHAMPIONSHIP
Sun 1/20 6:00PM (EST)

<TABLE border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>1 BALTIMORE RAVENS </TD><TD>+900 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2 BUFFALO BILLS </TD><TD>+3500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>3 CINCINNATI BENGALS </TD><TD>+850 </TD></TR><TR><TD>4 CLEVELAND BROWNS </TD><TD>+4000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>5 DENVER BRONCOS </TD><TD>+900 </TD></TR><TR><TD>6 HOUSTON TEXANS </TD><TD>+4000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>7 INDIANAPOLIS COLTS </TD><TD>+400 </TD></TR><TR><TD>8 JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS </TD><TD>+1200 </TD></TR><TR><TD>9 KANSAS CITY CHIEFS </TD><TD>+2000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>10 MIAMI DOLPHINS </TD><TD>+2000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>11 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS </TD><TD>+150 </TD></TR><TR><TD>12 NEW YORK JETS </TD><TD>+1500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>13 OAKLAND RAIDERS </TD><TD>+3500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>14 PITTSBURGH STEELERS </TD><TD>+1000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>15 SAN DIEGO CHARGERS </TD><TD>+300 </TD></TR><TR><TD>16 TENNESSEE TITANS </TD><TD>+2000 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><CITE>
* Note: </CITE>​
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ODDS TO WIN NFC CHAMPIONSHIP
<TABLE border=1><TBODY><TR><TH>ODDS TO WIN THE 2008 NFC CHAMPIONSHIP
Sun 1/20 6:00PM (EST)

<TABLE border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>1 ARIZONA CARDINALS </TD><TD>+1500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2 ATLANTA FALCONS </TD><TD>+2000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>3 CAROLINA PANTHERS </TD><TD>+550 </TD></TR><TR><TD>4 CHICAGO BEARS </TD><TD>+400 </TD></TR><TR><TD>5 DALLAS COWBOYS </TD><TD>+550 </TD></TR><TR><TD>6 DETROIT LIONS </TD><TD>+4000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>7 GREEN BAY PACKERS </TD><TD>+1800 </TD></TR><TR><TD>8 MINNESOTA VIKINGS </TD><TD>+1500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>9 NEW ORLEANS SAINTS </TD><TD>+500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>10 NEW YORK GIANTS </TD><TD>+900 </TD></TR><TR><TD>11 PHILADELPHIA EAGLES </TD><TD>+475 </TD></TR><TR><TD>12 SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS </TD><TD>+700 </TD></TR><TR><TD>13 SEATTLE SEAHAWKS </TD><TD>+550 </TD></TR><TR><TD>14 ST. LOUIS RAMS </TD><TD>+1500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>15 TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS </TD><TD>+1500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>16 WASHINGTON REDSKINS </TD><TD>+1500 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><CITE>
* Note: </CITE>​
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SUPERBOWL XLII
<TABLE border=1><TBODY><TR><TH>ODDS TO WIN SUPER BOWL XLII
Fri 8/31 8:00PM (EST)

<TABLE border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>2000 INDIANAPOLIS COLTS </TD><TD>+660 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2001 SEATTLE SEAHAWKS </TD><TD>+1600 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2002 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS </TD><TD>+280 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2003 CAROLINA PANTHERS </TD><TD>+1400 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2004 PITTSBURGH STEELERS </TD><TD>+1500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2005 DALLAS COWBOYS </TD><TD>+1100 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2006 SAN DIEGO CHARGERS </TD><TD>+500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2007 DENVER BRONCOS </TD><TD>+1200 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2008 NEW YORK GIANTS </TD><TD>+2000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2009 CHICAGO BEARS </TD><TD>+1000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2010 TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS </TD><TD>+4000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2011 CINCINNATI BENGALS </TD><TD>+1700 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2012 WASHINGTON REDSKINS </TD><TD>+4200 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2013 JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS </TD><TD>+2000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2014 KANSAS CITY CHIEFS </TD><TD>+4000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2015 ATLANTA FALCONS </TD><TD>+4000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2016 PHILADEPHIA EAGLES </TD><TD>+1200 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2017 MIAMI DOLPHINS </TD><TD>+3000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2018 MINNESOTA VIKINGS </TD><TD>+6000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2019 GREEN BAY PACKERS </TD><TD>+4000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2020 BALTIMORE RAVENS </TD><TD>+1800 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2021 CLEVELAND BROWNS </TD><TD>+6000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2022 ST LOUIS RAMS </TD><TD>+4000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2023 BUFFALO BILLS </TD><TD>+6000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2024 OAKLAND RAIDERS </TD><TD>+7500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2025 ARIZONA CARDINALS </TD><TD>+3500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2026 DETROIT LIONS </TD><TD>+9000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2027 HOUSTON TEXANS </TD><TD>+7000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2028 NEW ORLEANS SAINTS </TD><TD>+1500 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2029 SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS </TD><TD>+2800 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2030 TENNESSEE TITANS </TD><TD>+4000 </TD></TR><TR><TD>2031 NEW YORK JETS </TD><TD>+3000 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TH></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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someone tell this dude it's Jan 2 200 fucking 8
 
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