Best Late Round Steal In Professional Sports?
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Flamingo kid
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Terrell davis
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wideopen21
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Mike Piazza went 1,390th overall. Not bad for the best hitting catcher of all time.
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Mike Piazza went 1,390th overall. Not bad for the best hitting catcher of all time.
Flamingo kid
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Re: Best Late Round Steal In Professional Sports?
Manu Ginobli was the 57th pick, not a late round, but a late pick. Pretty good value there too.
Manu Ginobli was the 57th pick, not a late round, but a late pick. Pretty good value there too.
Hache Man
"Seven Days Without Gambling Makes One Weak"
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Very late pick as far as the NBA Flamingo......
Very late pick as far as the NBA Flamingo......
Re: Best Late Round Steal In Professional Sports?
but with all the undrafted free agents success, i think late round pick steals become kinda inconsequensial.
just for you....i'll say Safety out of Syracuse...Tanard Jackson....
but with all the undrafted free agents success, i think late round pick steals become kinda inconsequensial.
NickPappagiorgio
EOG Dedicated
Re: Best Late Round Steal In Professional Sports?
Im probably gonna need some help from some of the older posters here. But the best late round pick ever is an easy one.
Larry Bird was selected by the Boston Celtics in the last round of the NBA draft by Red Auerbach. The rules were different at that time, but I dont remember what the exact rule was. I do remember that in Birds last year at Indiana State, he was already property of the Celtics
Im probably gonna need some help from some of the older posters here. But the best late round pick ever is an easy one.
Larry Bird was selected by the Boston Celtics in the last round of the NBA draft by Red Auerbach. The rules were different at that time, but I dont remember what the exact rule was. I do remember that in Birds last year at Indiana State, he was already property of the Celtics
Hache Man
"Seven Days Without Gambling Makes One Weak"
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Yes.....
Amazing when you look back & consider he only got his chance because Drew Bledsoe went down.......
Yes.....
Amazing when you look back & consider he only got his chance because Drew Bledsoe went down.......
Re: Best Late Round Steal In Professional Sports?
brady or Pac Man
brady or Pac Man
biggamer3
EOG Master
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Here is a scouting report i found on Brady from before he the draft:
QB TOM BRADY
(6-4 1/2, 211, 5.25) Michigan
Notes: Baseball catcher and football quarterback in high school who was drafted by the Montreal Expos in the 18th round of the June 1995 baseball draft. Opted for football and redshirted at Michigan in ?95. Saw limited action in ?96 and ?97 and started the past two years. Completed 3-of-5 passes for 26 yards, no touchdowns and one interception in ?96, 12-15-103-0-0 in ?97, 214-350-2,636-15-12 in ?98 and 180-295-2,216-16-6 in ?99, when he often shared time with super sophomore Drew Henson. Went all the way against Alabama in the Orange Bowl and completed 34-46-369-4. Unlike many Michigan quarterbacks, Brady is a pocket-type passer who plays best in a dropback-type system.
Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him:LMAO and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader.
Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the ?99 season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you?d like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can?t drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own.
Summary: Is not what you?re looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone.
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QB MARC BULGER
(6-1 3/4, 206, 4.9) West Virginia
Notes: Completed 19-of-42 passes for 352 yards, three touchdowns and one interception as a redshirt freshman in 1996. Became a starter in ?97, when he hit on 192-323-2,465-14-10. Had his best season in ?98, completing 240-369-3,178-27-8 to finish eighth in the nation in passing efficiency. Also threw for four scores and 429 yards vs. Missouri in the Insight.Com Bowl. Never really got untracked in ?99. Lost his entire starting offensive line and blocking fullback plus wide receivers to graduation and the NFL and was under siege all year. Suffered numerous injuries (badly bruised right index finger, jammed thumb with bone chips, bad ankle sprain, etc.), which forced him to miss three full games and parts of several others. Wound up completing 145-239-1,729-11-13 in eight games.
Positives: Looked like he had an NFL future at the end of the ?98 season. Looked poised and was throwing the ball better than he ever had. Showed a nice, quick, compact delivery and release. Was accurate at almost all ranges. Made good decisions. Showed nice touch when he threw fade routes and some zip on his fastball when he needed to gun the ball. Threw for 1,646 yards and 13 scores on third down, if you include the bowl game.
Negatives: On the lean side and does not have a big frame. Looked like a totally different player in ?99. Got beaten up badly early on and played hurt most of the year. Developed bad habits. Instead of stepping into his throws, he threw falling away from the line. Bird-dogged primary receivers and forced the ball. Lost his accuracy and confidence. Never had a big arm, but arm strength was not a concern until this year.
Summary: Totally different player in ?98 than in ?99. Needs to break the bad habits he developed in ?99, regain his confidence and get back to where he was in ?98, when he looked like another Oliver Luck. Bulger may not be drafted because he played so poorly in ?99, but he would be a mid-round pick off what he did in ?98.
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Here is a scouting report i found on Brady from before he the draft:
QB TOM BRADY
(6-4 1/2, 211, 5.25) Michigan
Notes: Baseball catcher and football quarterback in high school who was drafted by the Montreal Expos in the 18th round of the June 1995 baseball draft. Opted for football and redshirted at Michigan in ?95. Saw limited action in ?96 and ?97 and started the past two years. Completed 3-of-5 passes for 26 yards, no touchdowns and one interception in ?96, 12-15-103-0-0 in ?97, 214-350-2,636-15-12 in ?98 and 180-295-2,216-16-6 in ?99, when he often shared time with super sophomore Drew Henson. Went all the way against Alabama in the Orange Bowl and completed 34-46-369-4. Unlike many Michigan quarterbacks, Brady is a pocket-type passer who plays best in a dropback-type system.
Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him:LMAO and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader.
Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the ?99 season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you?d like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can?t drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own.
Summary: Is not what you?re looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone.
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QB MARC BULGER
(6-1 3/4, 206, 4.9) West Virginia
Notes: Completed 19-of-42 passes for 352 yards, three touchdowns and one interception as a redshirt freshman in 1996. Became a starter in ?97, when he hit on 192-323-2,465-14-10. Had his best season in ?98, completing 240-369-3,178-27-8 to finish eighth in the nation in passing efficiency. Also threw for four scores and 429 yards vs. Missouri in the Insight.Com Bowl. Never really got untracked in ?99. Lost his entire starting offensive line and blocking fullback plus wide receivers to graduation and the NFL and was under siege all year. Suffered numerous injuries (badly bruised right index finger, jammed thumb with bone chips, bad ankle sprain, etc.), which forced him to miss three full games and parts of several others. Wound up completing 145-239-1,729-11-13 in eight games.
Positives: Looked like he had an NFL future at the end of the ?98 season. Looked poised and was throwing the ball better than he ever had. Showed a nice, quick, compact delivery and release. Was accurate at almost all ranges. Made good decisions. Showed nice touch when he threw fade routes and some zip on his fastball when he needed to gun the ball. Threw for 1,646 yards and 13 scores on third down, if you include the bowl game.
Negatives: On the lean side and does not have a big frame. Looked like a totally different player in ?99. Got beaten up badly early on and played hurt most of the year. Developed bad habits. Instead of stepping into his throws, he threw falling away from the line. Bird-dogged primary receivers and forced the ball. Lost his accuracy and confidence. Never had a big arm, but arm strength was not a concern until this year.
Summary: Totally different player in ?98 than in ?99. Needs to break the bad habits he developed in ?99, regain his confidence and get back to where he was in ?98, when he looked like another Oliver Luck. Bulger may not be drafted because he played so poorly in ?99, but he would be a mid-round pick off what he did in ?98.
Re: Best Late Round Steal In Professional Sports?
how can it be anyone except Tom Brady
how can it be anyone except Tom Brady
biggamer3
EOG Master
Re: Best Late Round Steal In Professional Sports?
Of course Brady is the greatest but Warner deserves some consideration, he was undrafted and won a couple MVP's and a SB
NickPappagiorgio
EOG Dedicated
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Id still say Larry Bird over Brady Art. Bird was taken in the last round, which was like 8 or 9 rounds at that time
Id still say Larry Bird over Brady Art. Bird was taken in the last round, which was like 8 or 9 rounds at that time
NickPappagiorgio
EOG Dedicated
Re: Best Late Round Steal In Professional Sports?
he was picked up in the previous years draft
he was picked up in the previous years draft
biggamer3
EOG Master
Re: Best Late Round Steal In Professional Sports?
Bird is top 50 no doubt, but no one ever says top 10
Brady will be for sure top 5 all time when he is done playing and 6th round is basically undrafted as most 6th and 7th rounders dont even make rosters
Nick even if Bird was undrafted he is not a greater steal than Brady IMO
Bird is top 50 no doubt, but no one ever says top 10
Brady will be for sure top 5 all time when he is done playing and 6th round is basically undrafted as most 6th and 7th rounders dont even make rosters
mofome
Banned
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bird is a top 5 NBA player, without a doubt. Brady is not a top 10 NFL player, yet.
bird is a top 5 NBA player, without a doubt. Brady is not a top 10 NFL player, yet.
Journeyman
EOG Master
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Piazza immediately came to mind...also Unitas who was actually cut Pittsburgh kept Ted Marchibroda instead.
Piazza immediately came to mind...also Unitas who was actually cut Pittsburgh kept Ted Marchibroda instead.
mofome
Banned
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you argue with me too often and you always get annihilated. just say 'thank you' when i give you information from now on.
Larry Bird B
io
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] http://www.larrybird.com/stats.html for Career stats)[/FONT]
How Acquired: Celtics first round draft choice in 1978 - 6<SUP>th</SUP> pick overall.
College Career: Consensus All-American in 1978 and 1979 and the Sporting News Player of the Year in 1979 ... TSN All-America First Team in 1978 and 1979 ... graduated as the fifth all-time leading NCAA scorer (30.3 ppg) ... ISU compiled a record of 81-13 overall and 50-1 at home in his three years ... led ISU to the 1979 NCAA Finals ... John Wooden Award winner in 1979 ... also attended Indiana University, and Northwood Institute, but did not play. Scored over 40 pts. 15 times, 30+ pts. 49 times, 20+ pts. 87 out of 94 games.
you argue with me too often and you always get annihilated. just say 'thank you' when i give you information from now on.
Larry Bird B
io
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] http://www.larrybird.com/stats.html for Career stats)[/FONT]
How Acquired: Celtics first round draft choice in 1978 - 6<SUP>th</SUP> pick overall.
College Career: Consensus All-American in 1978 and 1979 and the Sporting News Player of the Year in 1979 ... TSN All-America First Team in 1978 and 1979 ... graduated as the fifth all-time leading NCAA scorer (30.3 ppg) ... ISU compiled a record of 81-13 overall and 50-1 at home in his three years ... led ISU to the 1979 NCAA Finals ... John Wooden Award winner in 1979 ... also attended Indiana University, and Northwood Institute, but did not play. Scored over 40 pts. 15 times, 30+ pts. 49 times, 20+ pts. 87 out of 94 games.
biggamer3
EOG Master
Re: Best Late Round Steal In Professional Sports?
Jordan
Magic
Kareem
Duncan
Eddie Curry :houra
Not true Mo and you know it, top 5 are:
Jordan
Magic
Kareem
Duncan
Eddie Curry :houra
mofome
Banned
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i believe someone mentioned that.
:cheers
i believe someone mentioned that.
:cheers
Journeyman
EOG Master
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Bird was originally drafted by the Celtics with the sixth pick in 1978, the year before his senior year.... The Celtics knew he could return for his senior season, but due to a draft rule that was in effect at that time the Celtics could still sign him before a deadline date after his senior year. Bird did sign before the deadline.....that was a crazy rule!
Boston has been cursed for two decades since though.
Bird was originally drafted by the Celtics with the sixth pick in 1978, the year before his senior year.... The Celtics knew he could return for his senior season, but due to a draft rule that was in effect at that time the Celtics could still sign him before a deadline date after his senior year. Bird did sign before the deadline.....that was a crazy rule!
Boston has been cursed for two decades since though.
royboy
EOG Dedicated
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I agree about Brady being the bigger steal but...
I would say almost every list of top ten players in the nba would have bird in it, if not certainly the top 15.
I agree about Brady being the bigger steal but...
I would say almost every list of top ten players in the nba would have bird in it, if not certainly the top 15.
Journeyman
EOG Master
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Bird is ALL TIME ALL NBA First team , hands fucking down!
Bird is ALL TIME ALL NBA First team , hands fucking down!
mofome
Banned
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:LMAO :LMAO :LMAO
the actual list.
1) jordan
2) bird
3) russell
4) magic
5) the big 0
:LMAO :LMAO :LMAO
the actual list.
1) jordan
2) bird
3) russell
4) magic
5) the big 0
Journeyman
EOG Master
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Let Bird play with Kareem and see how many rings he would have won....not that Bird didn't have great players but not one of the other all-time greats and James Worthy!
Let Bird play with Kareem and see how many rings he would have won....not that Bird didn't have great players but not one of the other all-time greats and James Worthy!
mofome
Banned
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bird should have played with O, and LUUUUU, in a bucks old school green. they won without him, over my wiz, that was a fun team to watch.
:+excited-
bird should have played with O, and LUUUUU, in a bucks old school green. they won without him, over my wiz, that was a fun team to watch.
:+excited-
Journeyman
EOG Master
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My top 5
Jordan
Bird
Magic
Wilt
Oscar
Lew Alcindor off the bench when Wilt picks up a quick 2. best collegian no one remmbers, NC STATE David Thompson, who was Michael Jordan before Jordan, just like Len Bias was Michael Jordan after Jordan ...the best 3 ACC players are right there.
My top 5
Jordan
Bird
Magic
Wilt
Oscar
Lew Alcindor off the bench when Wilt picks up a quick 2. best collegian no one remmbers, NC STATE David Thompson, who was Michael Jordan before Jordan, just like Len Bias was Michael Jordan after Jordan ...the best 3 ACC players are right there.
Journeyman
EOG Master
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Yes 1971 and they were still the Bullets. 4 straight.:+whipping
Yes 1971 and they were still the Bullets. 4 straight.:+whipping
mofome
Banned
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they were still the bullets? who knew?
:houra
i like watching old school games from the 70s and 80s more than i enjoy watching the shit thats in the NBA right now. those were some good players.
they were still the bullets? who knew?
:houra
i like watching old school games from the 70s and 80s more than i enjoy watching the shit thats in the NBA right now. those were some good players.
Journeyman
EOG Master
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agree.
The Bullets had a couple very entertaining series vs Seattle in late 70's as well.
agree.
The Bullets had a couple very entertaining series vs Seattle in late 70's as well.
mofome
Banned
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i wish we were still called the bullets.
i wish we were still called the bullets.
dirty
EOG Master
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And you want to be taken serious with a post like That...:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
Bird is definitely a Top 5 NBA player.....
In no particular order
Bird
Johnson
Oscar
Wilt
West
And you want to be taken serious with a post like That...:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
Bird is definitely a Top 5 NBA player.....
In no particular order
Bird
Johnson
Oscar
Wilt
West