Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
NO LONGER does "If Bets"

hard to take an offshore book seriously that doesn't allow this. let's make alist of all books that fail to offer this

start with Legendz/The Pig and who else goes on this list. and BTW - if your book no longer offers this DO NOT list it on the site as something we can do. eliminate that option so that i don't have to call in and be told this is now the case

They have a GREAT CSR department and fast payouts - but hard to take a book seriously that doesn't offer a lot and is nothing more than Vegas located a few 1000 miles away. Kudos to them for all their support here but hard to be thought of as anything other than a 2nd rate book when you don't offer "if bets"
 

trytrytry

All I do is trytrytry
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

are you sure the software shows that as an option?
 
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

I don't see what the big deal is about IF bets. For starters, someone has to win the first play just for it to mean anything. And if you lose the second play, then the book just made some vig out of it. I guess I'd understand maybe keeping maximums a little lower on it (as though they would with parlays) but other than that it seems like something every book should -want- to offer.
 

The General

Another Day, Another Dollar
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

A+ Sports Book. They don't need You and You don't need them.

Play or don't play. I assure you not a person in that company will lose sleep as they are TOPS! Among the Greatest group of caring management people around Ever in this industry.

Ahhhhhh... Hold the Plane betty. Oh My! Shit. damn. (Arrgghhhhh)

I see they do not have odds up for the High School opener tonight for my local teams and I am fukin steaming. I may make a call and yell at someone over there. :rolleyes:
 
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

Dang General,

5Dimes dropped offering High School bets as of tonight. I guess they aren't an A book now either...

The NERVE of them as I also had a lock High School bet I was going to make IF the Yankees won....:+textinb3
 

BigDaddy

EOG Master
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

If bets cater to cetain customers so being an A book you would think they offer them i dont use IF bets often only when i can use it to my advantage i will but

so i agree with winky its pretty stupid not to offer them in my opinion

ways to get around it though as long as they offer parlays
 

Towelie

EOG Enthusiast
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

Any book that boots winners should never be considered an A+ book. General you are telling me that Pinnacle & Ledgenz are equal? Come on now.
 

The General

Another Day, Another Dollar
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

I typed the words just as I would say them personally and you may interpret however you wish. I Do believe in individual beliefs and rights to freedom of expression.

You guys got to do what you need to do and I will do the same thing respectively.

Good day
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

Winky you need to get off the Sauce.... And Towelie Pinny should not be in any conversation because they are not a option for most players....BOTTOM LINE...


IMO if you Base your Opinion on if a book offers IF bets then you are a losing Bettor period
 
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

The following are the BEST in the industry in no particular order IMHO:

CRIS-BOOKMAKER

WSEX-MATCHBOOK

THE GREEK-BET JAMAICA

LEGENDZ-THE PIG

5DIMES
 

BigDaddy

EOG Master
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

Winky you need to get off the Sauce.... And Towelie Pinny should not be in any conversation because they are not a option for most players....BOTTOM LINE...


IMO if you Base your Opinion on if a book offers IF bets then you are a losing Bettor period

i killed a book on if bets last year until they took that option away:rolleyes: but i wasnt doing what most do betting if bets
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

It can be done I agree BD..... Not questioning that....but in General My Statement is True.....Winky has had a Hard on for this book for 2 years and will always find something wrong with them
 
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

It can be done I agree BD..... Not questioning that....but in General My Statement is True.....Winky has had a Hard on for this book for 2 years and will always find something wrong with them

I'm sure winkyduck is looking forward to winning more free money from the PIG in the Head 2 Head contest this year, though. No puck lines or if bets to worry about with that!
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

They have puck lines....


And I just Logged Into THE PIG and I have If Bets.... I have the Option to bet up to a 5 Team IF Bet... so I am Calling Winky Out ...Bullshit..... I will post a Screen shot If I need to
 

BigDaddy

EOG Master
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

dirty winkys problem is you need money at the pig to test out what betting options they have so he probally gets stuck in stage 1 and cant go to the next i get the same problem so im not bashing winky just stating they dont allow like some books let you test what bets get through:cheers

my balance at pig is 0 i lost my deposit for pig contest:hung
 

BigDaddy

EOG Master
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

dirty good work but you still have to try maybe the system doesnt allow them anymore even though they show up in menu? i see you are broke like me so we have to find someone with a $5 balance and test this out:+textinb3
 

The General

Another Day, Another Dollar
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

It was brought to my attention that my post may be bias since I just came from there. Well, when you sit and speak personally and individually with the Main guys running the place all along hearing in on some of the calls that come in probably 20 per hour concerning any and all situations that could arise for a sports book from Odds, wagers being made, CS courtesy and all around day to day activity, you get a pretty damn good feel of how these guys operate (I knew all along, but the visit just solidified my thoughts) then I guess yeah, I may be a little biased. Hands on face to face communication with the brass who took any and all questions with sincere honest answers kinda leads to that in this case.
 
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

Please for the sake of the industry...

IF you are going to drop any sports book a full letter grade on the basis of whether they accept "IF" bets, all I ask of you is NOT to open up a Watch Dog site... :+peeing-2

Thanks,

THE SHRINK
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

You OK with that account number showing in the screen shot?


yes....



dirty good work but you still have to try maybe the system doesnt allow them anymore even though they show up in menu? i see you are broke like me so we have to find someone with a $5 balance and test this out:+textinb3


I will get it handled and do a Screen shot
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

They Most Definitely Take If bets... They don't take Correlated If bets or Reverses


I will post a screen shot of a $5 If bet in a few minutes
 

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

They Most Definitely Take If bets... They don't take Correlated If bets or Reverses


I will post a screen shot of a $5 If bet in a few minutes

fine - try and make an IF bet on 2 SEPARATE games and see if they allow it
 

trytrytry

All I do is trytrytry
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

no if wager. I confirmed it with a funded account. that is too bad actually I used that at pig and legendz before ...
 

trytrytry

All I do is trytrytry
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

cant do it...i tried WNBA, MLB, etc.... i sort of noticed that 2 weeks ago but did not think much about it but yea on close look they turned off that IF wager option...
 

BigDaddy

EOG Master
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

as i figured didnt see any reason for winky to lie its to bad you think a book that caters to squares would want those types of bets :+clueless really doesnt make sense it puts money into action they want action? so whats the problem all other books take them besides pinny and even at one time pinny accepted them along time ago
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

I will have a screen shot of a if bet in a Bit.... As soon as my account is credited with money it will be up
 

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

no if wager. I confirmed it with a funded account. that is too bad actually I used that at pig and legendz before ...

i called in and spoke to the CSR and he told me this after i couldn't do it on the site

for the record they WERE a "C-Rated" book until the added a -1.5/+1.5 option for the NHL last season - something Skybook needs to do - but looks like they never will
 

BigDaddy

EOG Master
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

trytry confirmed he is telling the truth no need to send deposit trytry can be trusted
 

The General

Another Day, Another Dollar
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

Any book that boots winners should never be considered an A+ book. General you are telling me that Pinnacle & Ledgenz are equal? Come on now.

How do you see the comparison of reducing limits vs just saying No we do not want to see what you are betting (you are booted) because we do not want to make money.

Thanks
 

Towelie

EOG Enthusiast
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

And Towelie Pinny should not be in any conversation because they are not a option for most players....BOTTOM LINE...

The point was when pinnacle served us customers I think most people would have rated them an A+. If you go back and compare what pinnacle offered to US players versus what the Pig brings to the table at this point in time it isn't close. Giving them an A+ or putting them in the same leageue as pinny is a joke.
 

Towelie

EOG Enthusiast
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

How do you see the comparison of reducing limits vs just saying No we do not want to see what you are betting (you are booted) because we do not want to make money.

Thanks

Sportsbooks should book on action period. If you are worried about reducing limits than make the limits for all bettors lower. If someone wants more than the limit they can request it, and the book can choose to take or refuse the wager.
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

I just got off the Phone with The PIG Management.. and They still offer IF Bets.... They are doing a Software Upgrade that is why they Bets are not going THRU. There was a loophole in the software They are fixing. The Tech Team just revealed what was going on. By later tonight or Tomorrow all Uncorrelated IF bets and Reverses will be allowed. I will Post My If Bets when I make them
 

Almost Allright

GO Bucks!!!
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

Thinking of the PIg for foots. I don't need if bets so not an issue here. But i have to say the timing of this thread makes me wonder. General and Dirty come back from there, meet people had a great time and the next day this thread. Smells like an agenda or at the least a shit stir. The timing of this thread devalues the opinion but that is just my 2 cents.
 

The General

Another Day, Another Dollar
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

I understand that AA (Good Point). The agenda assumption is wrong though. This is where you (like all members) as adults have to make a self-responsible decision based on what you read. That is a great reason to be here at EOG.com and do not forget WE WILL INSURE YOU UP TO $5000 if you have any concerns. AND we will happily do it with these guys and not think twice.

Good luck
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Why did Legendz/The Pig is a B-Rated book - AT BEST

Like Big Mike Said down there... If he had to have anyone owe him money it would Be the owner of PIG/Legendz..... That guy will not rest until you are paid. He pays you the next day if at all Possible....
 
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